Except that you did.
You tried, several times, to say that I don't support/understand the plight of the poor ("you have obviously never spent time in public housing..." blah blah blah)
The wise lady said, "That's a cheapass tactic."
But what's new?
More apeaceful Protesting in Baltimore
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Except that you did.
You tried, several times, to say that I don't support/understand the plight of the poor ("you have obviously never spent time in public housing..." blah blah blah)
The wise lady said, "That's a cheapass tactic."
But what's new?
57Brave
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57Brave
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actually I said you obviously haven't spent time in public housing. That was my observation. And it was clear that was my opinion of what you wrote. I didnt put words in your mouth.
Again, do you have any ideas as to causes for inner city riots and or how do we work to see they dont happen again in those other great american cities
or you can call me a spend other peoples money Marxist -- either way
Right.
So now that we've done a complete circle, how is this system disadvantaging anyone that is a part of it?
Not how are they disadvantaged -- but, again ... how is the system we have created to help them disadvantageous?
BTW, this system was administrated by individuals who share your beliefs as it pertains to social reform.
The implication was clear, and it was/is pithy.
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And I never called you a Marxist/Leninist/Communist -- you took that bait.
My ideas on preventing riots?
I don't believe that they should be prevented, if warranted.
But the situation in Baltimore? Not rioting. Not protesting. Not demonstrating. Just looting and vandalism.
mossy
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How much time have you spent in public housing?
57Brave
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This strain of DNA in Baltimore’s history, like the crippling impact of Washington’s sub-democratic status, was of a piece with ingrained injustices in other riot-prone American cities. “What white Americans have never fully understood — but what the Negro can never forget — is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto,” said the Kerner Commission in 1968. “White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it.” The warning went unheeded. So did King’s own warning to Baltimore, delivered in person in a 1966 speech, that “thousands of work-starved men walk the streets every day in search for jobs that do not exist.” Only after the cities imploded would there be a reckoning — on paper, anyway. A report commissioned by the Quakers’ American Friends Committee on the 1968 Baltimore riots found that the black population was largely confined to decrepit neighborhoods where housing ordinances went unenforced, schools were inferior, police harassment was prolific, and jobs had vanished. Even the peaceable Quakers had to conclude that “when one accumulates a list of the complaints of Baltimoreans, one tends to wonder why the retaliation was not worse.”
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/05/americas-race-riots.html?mid=twitter_dailyintelligencer
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/05/americas-race-riots.html?mid=twitter_dailyintelligencer
Tapate50
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Mother and Son shot in the head.
http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-residents-fearful-amid-homicide-spike-083758282.html
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I'm afraid to go outside," said Antoinette Perrine, whose brother was shot down three weeks ago on a basketball court near her home in the Harlem Park neighborhood of West Baltimore. Ever since, she has barricaded her door and added metal slabs inside her windows to deflect gunfire.
"It's so bad, people are afraid to let their kids outside," Perrine said. "People wake up with shots through their windows. Police used to sit on every corner, on the top of the block. These days? They're nowhere."
West Baltimore residents worry they've been abandoned by the officers they once accused of harassing them, leaving some neighborhoods like the Wild West without a lawman around.
"Before it was over-policing. Now there's no police," said Donnail "Dreads" Lee, 34, who lives in the Gilmor Homes, the public housing complex where Gray, 25, was chased down. "People feel as though they can do things and get away with it. I see people walking with guns almost every single day, because they know the police aren't pulling them up like they used to."
Police Commissioner Anthony Batts said his officers "are not holding back," despite encountering dangerous hostility in the Western District.
"Our officers tell me that when officers pull up, they have 30 to 50 people surrounding them at any time," Batts said.
http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-residents-fearful-amid-homicide-spike-083758282.html
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I'm afraid to go outside," said Antoinette Perrine, whose brother was shot down three weeks ago on a basketball court near her home in the Harlem Park neighborhood of West Baltimore. Ever since, she has barricaded her door and added metal slabs inside her windows to deflect gunfire.
"It's so bad, people are afraid to let their kids outside," Perrine said. "People wake up with shots through their windows. Police used to sit on every corner, on the top of the block. These days? They're nowhere."
West Baltimore residents worry they've been abandoned by the officers they once accused of harassing them, leaving some neighborhoods like the Wild West without a lawman around.
"Before it was over-policing. Now there's no police," said Donnail "Dreads" Lee, 34, who lives in the Gilmor Homes, the public housing complex where Gray, 25, was chased down. "People feel as though they can do things and get away with it. I see people walking with guns almost every single day, because they know the police aren't pulling them up like they used to."
Police Commissioner Anthony Batts said his officers "are not holding back," despite encountering dangerous hostility in the Western District.
"Our officers tell me that when officers pull up, they have 30 to 50 people surrounding them at any time," Batts said.
That's what they wanted.
Where are the Liberals and Libertarians now? How was this a good thing for the safety for Baltimore?
How's Baltimore unsafe? They have strict gun laws there.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
What new development? That a lot of murders happen in Baltimore?
No, that its even more violent now that the cops aren't as heavily involved.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Are they? I mean it's the worst monthin a long time but hardly astronomical.
Just the worst month in years. Nothing to see here
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
And if things stay the same and next month is the best month in years what does that have to do with police? I expect as a statistician you'd understand that you can't just presume correlation is causation.
goldfly
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what statement are you trying to make?