6/7/15: GDT - Pittsburgh Pirates @ Atlanta Braves (Peterson back at 2B)

bravesnumberone said:
The whole post-game thing is for any of you who still think Fredi is so star-spangled awesome. The reasons he needs to be gone extend far beyond bringing the wrong reliever in or whatever.
Click to expand...

Agreed. Someone reminded me of this ejection by Wood from over a year ago:

[video=youtube;Y75YqNhT46Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y75YqNhT46Q&feature=youtu.be[/video]

If I am Wood, I'd be tempted to respond to Fredi the same way he did Bucknor in this video.
 
Braves1976 said:
If even Gov didn't like it Fredi must have did something wrong. I didn't know if I'd see the day he'd question Fredi (partly joking there btw). :)
Click to expand...

LOL

I think the manager's impact is wildly overrated unless they're an epsilon semi-moron.

**** like that makes me wonder. Your player just got thrown out for nothing. Run your lard ass out there and protect him, if you get there too late you get thrown out too. then tell the press the ump overreacted to a few words.

Protect your players. That's important and he should know that.

Now, managing this bullpen is not on Fredi. Tony LaRussa, Joe Torre, or the ghost of Casey ****ing Stengel couldn't polish this turd.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
LOL

I think the manager's impact is wildly overrated unless they're an epsilon semi-moron.

**** like that makes me wonder. Your player just got thrown out for nothing. Run your lard ass out there and protect him, if you get there too late you get thrown out too. then tell the press the ump overreacted to a few words.

Protect your players. That's important and he should know that.

Now, managing this bullpen is not on Fredi. Tony LaRussa, Joe Torre, or the ghost of Casey ****ing Stengel couldn't polish this turd.
Click to expand...

I'm ready to give fatty a pass on this one too. It's garbage that cannot be saved outside of overpaying for some, which I'm against.
 
Braves1976 said:
It seems we might be getting calls on Jason Grilli:

"Jason Grilli, RHP, Braves — Several teams have Grilli as a target near the trade deadline. Teams such as the Red Sox and Yankees have always viewed Grilli as a perfect late-inning reliever who has been willing to take the ball in any role."

Source link: https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...-characters/SLNi37gvg0TPGKbau9iQLP/story.html
Click to expand...

Hopefully we can get some decent value for him. Need to be patient on it and hope the stink of the pen doesn't wear off on him.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
LOL

I think the manager's impact is wildly overrated unless they're an epsilon semi-moron.

**** like that makes me wonder. Your player just got thrown out for nothing. Run your lard ass out there and protect him, if you get there too late you get thrown out too. then tell the press the ump overreacted to a few words.

Protect your players. That's important and he should know that.

Now, managing this bullpen is not on Fredi. Tony LaRussa, Joe Torre, or the ghost of Casey ****ing Stengel couldn't polish this turd.
Click to expand...

This is one of the things that has always bugged me about Fredi. Bobby may have looked ridiculous gimping out there to argue a lost cause, but it was one of the ways he bred loyalty and unity in the dugout. I can't believe that he didn't give the umpire hell for that.
 
I agree with Gov. Most of the in game decisions that Fredi gets criticized for are things you can criticize 90% of all managers for. Today though, to throw your player under the bus and not defend him....that's an area where a manager has more control of than any outcome on the field. It makes it very clear why this team wilts at the end of the season.
 
Braves1976 said:
It seems we might be getting calls on Jason Grilli:

"Jason Grilli, RHP, Braves — Several teams have Grilli as a target near the trade deadline. Teams such as the Red Sox and Yankees have always viewed Grilli as a perfect late-inning reliever who has been willing to take the ball in any role."

Source link: https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...-characters/SLNi37gvg0TPGKbau9iQLP/story.html
Click to expand...

Not much of a surprise, him and Jim are pretty decent bets to get dealt.

AJ too if they can get anything worth a **** for him.
 
Julio3000 said:
This is one of the things that has always bugged me about Fredi. Bobby may have looked ridiculous gimping out there to argue a lost cause, but it was one of the ways he bred loyalty and unity in the dugout. I can't believe that he didn't give the umpire hell for that.
Click to expand...

And another thing. There's not a damn thing wrong with Alex Wood wanting to win. I'll take a whole rosterful. The guy wants the ball and he expects a consistently called game. Sometimes you don't get it and you have to deal, and he will. But you don't need to say that **** to David OBrien and Mark Bowman. You say it to Alex Wood tomorrow in your office in a calm voice with the door closed.
 
KB21 said:
I agree with Gov. Most of the in game decisions that Fredi gets criticized for are things you can criticize 90% of all managers for. Today though, to throw your player under the bus and not defend him....that's an area where a manager has more control of than any outcome on the field. It makes it very clear why this team wilts at the end of the season.
Click to expand...

I agree. When you reach down in September, this is one of those things that can hurt or help.
 
I don't see where Fredi said he didn't know what was said between the two, just that he didn't know it was a heated exchange until Wood got ejected. He even admitted that he would have gotten out there sooner if he did. Can anyone link me to where he said that?
 
CyYoung31 said:
I don't see where Fredi said he didn't know what was said between the two, just that he didn't know it was a heated exchange until Wood got ejected. He even admitted that he would have gotten out there sooner if he did. Can anyone link me to where he said that?
Click to expand...

Try this one:

@DOBrienAJC 6h6 hours ago

VIDEO: #Braves Fredi G on loss and Wood's untimely ejection http://on-ajc.com/1RWlR5A

Quoting Fredi from that video: "He can't get thrown out of the game there. And I don't know what was said, obviously if I thought it was a heated conversation I would've gone out there a little bit sooner..."
 
Braves1976 said:
Try this one:

@DOBrienAJC 6h6 hours ago

VIDEO: #Braves Fredi G on loss and Wood's untimely ejection http://on-ajc.com/1RWlR5A

Quoting Fredi from that video: "He can't get thrown out of the game there. And I don't know what was said, obviously if I thought it was a heated conversation I would've gone out there a little bit sooner..."
Click to expand...

Meh. I'd definitely like to see Fredi defend his players more in the ilk of Bobby, but I don't think that quote is that bad.
 
CyYoung31 said:
Meh. I'd definitely like to see Fredi defend his players more in the ilk of Bobby, but I don't think that quote is that bad.
Click to expand...

I just focused on quoting the portion related to your "I don't see where Fredi said he didn't know what was said between the two" question. But maybe you're saying you don't think what Fredi said overall in that video was that bad? If so, I'll just have to disagree with you in this case.
 
Braves1976 said:
I just focused on quoting the portion related to your "I don't see where Fredi said he didn't know what was said between the two" question. But maybe you're saying you don't think what Fredi said overall in that video was that bad? If so, I'll just have to disagree with you in this case.
Click to expand...

That's fine, but we really don't disagree on the point of Fredi defending his players. We just don't agree on the degree of the sin.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top