Christian Bethancourt optioned to Gwinnett

Russ2dollas said:
Didn't we just draft a handful of catchers?

C is a tough position. Few have good guys there. That is why we had such a competitive advantage with McCann, b/c it is so rare to have a guy that can hit above 7 in a good line up and not be an embarrassment on D.

CB you're hoping is an elite defensive catcher with power. Maybe he becomes a mistake hitter in the 8th spot where he can get some free walks and some HRs on hangers. But he has not been close to that. The defense has been nowhere near elite.

Hart and Co seem to think CB needs to be taught a lesson. They kept talking about not handing him the spot. It seems like the thought is that he is not putting in the work.
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I really don't think this is a big motivating tool or anything. He's not very good at baseball. His OPS is .523 and he's sloppy defensively.
 
zbhargrove said:
He has never looked good at any level offensively... and he never flashed the defense he was supposed to at any level. It was bad group think... he was never an elite prospect and never deserved to be one.
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This is where I come out. I was puzzled, 'cause I didn't see it.
 
Braves1976 said:
A player can be sloppy or lazy defensively at times and still good defensively overall. Further, I never said I liked his bat or that I see him as a starter long-term. But to be fair he still didn't get much of a shot.
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For example Heyward is sloppy and lazy but still manages to be good defensively.
 
Braves1976 said:
A player can be sloppy or lazy defensively at times and still good defensively overall. Further, I never said I liked his bat or that I see him as a starter long-term. But to be fair he still didn't get much of a shot.
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Seems to me the thing to do, if he's serious about this, is to go down and learn his craft. Control what he can control. Most of his defensive problems look solvable to me. He may never be a great hitter but he can do a better job recognizing strikes, being more selective, that sort of thing.
 
Garmel said:
If we can get Matt Wieters all of our catching problems will be over. Unfortunately, he will probably re-sign with Baltimore.
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His agent is Boras, im not sure.

Supposedly the Yankees have had a boner for Wieters for awhile.

Get Mac back?
 
Strikes out too much. walks to little, doesn't have enough power. One of those 3 things has to change. Either he needs to strike out a lot less, walk a lot more or get a massive increase in power.
 
unbelievably asinine comments about him. He's a .270 career minor league player. Regardless of what you say Gov, he hasn't been clueless. He's taken time to adjust and he's done it enough. If he hit .260 AND played good defense, I'd take him. He's struggling right now..and regressed, but I hope he can salvage the talent that he does have.
 
Deester11 said:
unbelievably asinine comments about him. He's a .270 career minor league player. Regardless of what you say Gov, he hasn't been clueless. He's taken time to adjust and he's done it enough. If he hit .260 AND played good defense, I'd take him. He's struggling right now..and regressed, but I hope he can salvage the talent that he does have.
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The issue is he struck out about 16% of the time. Meaning in the bigs he'll probably be around 20% if he's wlaking around 4% that's not good. He had a .323 BABIP, how many catchers have that high of a BABIP since 2000
? 3. Mauer, Pudge and Posey. Bethancourt doesn't have the pure hitting skills of any of those guys.
 
Deester11 said:
unbelievably asinine comments about him. He's a .270 career minor league player. Regardless of what you say Gov, he hasn't been clueless. He's taken time to adjust and he's done it enough. If he hit .260 AND played good defense, I'd take him. He's struggling right now..and regressed, but I hope he can salvage the talent that he does have.
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.270 in the minors with little power, and too many Ks considering how little he walks, is not very good, and him batting .260 in the majors is a longshot IMO.
 
Deester11 said:
unbelievably asinine comments about him. He's a .270 career minor league player. Regardless of what you say Gov, he hasn't been clueless. He's taken time to adjust and he's done it enough. If he hit .260 AND played good defense, I'd take him. He's struggling right now..and regressed, but I hope he can salvage the talent that he does have.
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Absolutely nothing asinine has been said... the only asinine sentiments in this thread are people who still think he can be a serviceable MLB player. 270 in the minors with zero other peripherals is absolute garbage. And you say "if" he played good defense... he does not. His defense was so overstated it is ridiculous.
 
zitothebrave said:
Strikes out too much. walks to little, doesn't have enough power. One of those 3 things has to change. Either he needs to strike out a lot less, walk a lot more or get a massive increase in power.
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Or some improvement across all three dimensions. You're right though that his combination of walk and strikeout rates and ISO doesn't cut it at the major league level.
 
zitothebrave said:
Strikes out too much. walks to little, doesn't have enough power. One of those 3 things has to change. Either he needs to strike out a lot less, walk a lot more or get a massive increase in power.
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doubt any of this happens. He may cut down on his strikeouts a little but he's never walked much at all and he doesn't hit the ball with any authority.
 
Its really too bad we didn't trade him when he had perceived value... now good luck getting anything for him.
 
zbhargrove said:
Absolutely nothing asinine has been said... the only asinine sentiments in this thread are people who still think he can be a serviceable MLB player. 270 in the minors with zero other peripherals is absolute garbage. And you say "if" he played good defense... he does not. His defense was so overstated it is ridiculous.
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So now that you got that off your chest, you wanna tell us how really feel? :)
 
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