Charleston SC shooting

Krgrecw said:
Gold, if more guns is not the answer why do the cities/states with the strictest gun laws have more gun violence than states where it's easier to obtain a gun?

92% of blacks are murdered by other blacks. Now what % of that 92% do you honestly think involves a legally, registered firearm by its rightful owner? Maybe 5% at the most. You can't fix problems like that. More and harsher gun laws won't fix those problems.
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5% if that.

If you check African American, they would probably do the most extensive check in history to make sure you have a job and what not to even get one, soooooo.............................

We have conceal and carry and I am black, why do I need a gun, really? I ain't shooting another black, I am not going to rob anyone, I definitely don't deal in drugs. Come in my house, you will leave in body bag, well two, one for your body and one for your head.
 
Tomahawking4life said:
lol

so lets just do nothing instead

leave things the way they are

thats working real ****in well moron
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So Einstein the Idiot, lets ban all weapons sold in the US. We can do that if it comes to that.

So what do you do with the 300 mil that are out there and about 70% illegally gained. Do you tell the police to go get them? Do you know how many will die trying?

Now this idiot got a weapon from his father and passed all legal stuff, do you not think he had other means to get illegal weapon to still do the deed?

I do think we should do something, but that something is more bloodier and costlier than anything else. Wisconsin is a conceal and carry state and a lot of people I see in church have holsters. Do you not think if some black come in church (won't happen) and start shooting people, he would get shot in return?
 
Tomahawking4life said:
brilliant rebuttal

attack me since you cant attack the argument
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I did, so what is your answer. We can stop sales, but they will get their guns anyway. Take them away, more deaths than you can imagine would happen both from the NRA whites and the black Dem hoodrats would do on the police.

Sooo Einstein, what would you do since you KNOW everything?
 
Garmel said:
LOL! You started this argument doing the exact same thing and I just returned the favor. Not very self-aware are you?
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What do you expect from a mental midget that doesn't understand anything? I call him a LibBot, like Steak Sauce. He doesn't see the big picture, just what the libs want to cry about and that is all they do. They do not see the big picture. Grant it, Pubs are slightly better but at least they try to do something right.

Neither have any common sense so I just roll my eyes.
 
i should have known better than to argue gun control with a bunch of republicans

if the 20 dead children from sandy hook 2 1/2 years ago did nothing to change their opinion, than why would 9 dead black men and women killed by a white guy change their minds
 
Tomahawking4life said:
i should have known better than to argue gun control with a bunch of republicans

if the 20 dead children from sandy hook 2 1/2 years ago did nothing to change their opinion, than why would 9 dead black men and women killed by a white guy change their minds
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Toma no one is saying there isn't a problem. We are saying that you can stop the gun trade like you can't stop the drug trade

No liberal can offer a viable solution to fix our gun problems. That's our point
 
Hawk said:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d215...4/confederate-flag-sets-debate-gop-2016-class

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said the last thing the people of South Carolina need is "people from outside of the state coming in and dictating how they should resolve it," Cruz said in a statement provided to The Associated Press.

I don't think I've ever agreed with Ted Cruz on anything, until now.
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You are talking about Ted Cruz, the numbnut who is from OUTSIDE South Carolina, right? Has anyone else noticed how every single thing that happens in this country has to be first analyzed as to which special little subgroup it either helps or potentially harms and them the sides line up from there?? He's actually probably right about this, but if it benefited the Repubs there would have more people there than free brownies at a Rosie O'Donnell press conference.

By the way Garmel, you really don't own a gun at all? What the f*ck kind of Texan are you??? I went to Fort Worth today to see my granddaughter, who is about a month shy of being 3 years old take part in a fashion show. My favorite saying on this matter is that (and this is true) I have more guns than John Wayne. Of course I live in McCurtain Country Oklahoma, aka the Wild Wild West.
 
Oklahomahawk said:
He's actually probably right about this, but if it benefited the Repubs there would have more people there than free brownies at a Rosie O'Donnell press conference. .
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There are plenty of big name Republicans calling for its removal, Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney right at the top.

Tragedy is the ripest of political peaches.
 
Hawk said:
There are plenty of big name Republicans calling for its removal, Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney right at the top.

Tragedy is the ripest of political peaches.
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Ain't that the truth!!! Pitiful when either side tries to make points off someone else's suffering.
 
Oklahomahawk said:
By the way Garmel, you really don't own a gun at all? What the f*ck kind of Texan are you??? My favorite saying on this matter is that (and this is true) I have more guns than John Wayne. Of course I live in McCurtain Country Oklahoma, aka the Wild Wild West.
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I'm way too much of an accident-prone person to own a gun. If I had a gun I would probably end up accidentally shooting myself or a loved one. :)
 
Garmel said:
I'm way too much of an accident-prone person to own a gun. If I had a gun I would probably end up accidentally shooting myself or a loved one. :)
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Curious. What's the waiting period to buy a gun in Texas? In Sc it's like ten minutes or so
 
Oklahomahawk said:
aka the Wild Wild West.
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Krgrecw said:
Gold, if more guns is not the answer why do the cities/states with the strictest gun laws have more gun violence than states where it's easier to obtain a gun?

92% of blacks are murdered by other blacks. Now what % of that 92% do you honestly think involves a legally, registered firearm by its rightful owner? Maybe 5% at the most. You can't fix problems like that. More and harsher gun laws won't fix those problems.
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cause like city like Chicago, just out the city limits people set up shop selling guns and flood the streets with em.

think if EVERYWHERE had strict gun laws? think if we stopped locking up non violent people and instead started locking up the violent people?

no idea but if you want to find actual stats instead of just guessing we could have a conversation about it.

of course harsher gun laws can fix the problem to a degree.

i don't live in a bubble. i understand we will never be "fully safe". i understand that and it is why i don't freak out about terrorism stuff as much.

but i also have a way better chance of being killed by an American with a gun than being killed by a terrorist that hates the USA.
 
Garmel said:
Have you wondered why countries with lax gun control laws don't have our problems?
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what countries are you talking about

Have you ever wondered why the USA of yesterday didn't have these problems
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is this a serious question?

also, define "USA of yesterday"

and we didn't have background checks or restrictions on automatic weapons back then either?
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hmm, i wonder why we might have a problem with guns and mass killings by them now

Seriously, do you ever ponder these things or do you just like to stand there and spout rhetoric from Salon, TPM, or HuffPo like a mindless automaton?
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i follow HuffPo on twitter but i don't go to those sites but it is funny that you say that and then end it with "mindless automaton"

i go to Drudge pretty often to see what bs or racist **** he is peddling though

P.S. I don't even own a gun.
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i own a gun
 
Krgrecw said:
We are saying that you can stop the gun trade like you can't stop the drug trade
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easily the dumbest comparison to make

if that is the case

why have any laws at all?

No liberal can offer a viable solution to fix our gun problems. That's our point
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outside of doing nothing and saying "that won't work" to everything else

what is your solution again?
 
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