Braves acquire RHP Touki Toussaint & Bronson Arroyo for Filthy Phil Gosselin

[GovClintonTyree]

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 2m2 minutes ago Chicago, IL
braves ass't gm coppolella: "the way john schuerholz built the braves was thru impact pitching ... it's the braves way."

Go with what you know. nsacpi, you've said a number of times that you prefer the Cubs approach with stockpiling position players, which looks like it's bearing huge fruit. You cite the relative scarcity of hitting and the ability to easily deal for the pitching you need.

One of the best pieces of investment advice you can give a person, as Paul McCartney's father in law told him back when Paul was trying to work it out, was to "invest in what you know." And of course Paul invested in specific music catalogues, which is how he came to own Michael Jackson, among others.

I think it's undeniable that the Braves know pitching. (How to keep it healthy is another issue.) But we can always peel off some of this great pitching to sign or deal for the C or LF we need to put us over the top. Pitching is our currency. It's what we know. So I guess we just keep doing it.

 

[smootness]

The Braves now have SEVEN former 1st round pitchers at 24 or younger in the system, most of whom were taken in the top 20: Miller, Folty, Fried, Jenkins, Sims, Touissant, and Allard. Unbelievable.

 

[GovClintonTyree]

Simmons for Goldy

Freddie can play SS

Once upon a time, Freddie really could play 3B.

Guessing he's pretty statuesque over there.

 

[Heyward]

We've traded with every NL West team, except SF.

Hunter Strickland for..............

 

[Heyward]

The Braves now have SEVEN former 1st round pitchers at 24 or younger in the system, most of whom were taken in the top 20: Miller, Folty, Fried, Jenkins, Sims, Touissant, and Allard. Unbelievable.

If they can get Allard signed, the system is absolutely loaded with pitching.

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

We've traded with every NL West team, except SF.

Hunter Strickland for..............

Chris Johnson

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 14m14 minutes ago

The D-Backs sold Touki Toussaint for $10 million, five months after paying $16 million (with tax) for Yoan Lopez, who is not as good.

Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 12m12 minutes ago

Not only that, but the D-Backs have the top international bonus pool. Signing Lopez prevents them any signings above $300K for two years.

Ben Badler ‏@BenBadler 7m7 minutes ago

Meanwhile, the Braves paid $10 million to add a Top 100 prospect and might blitz the international market in 2016. Way better strategy.

 

[GovClintonTyree]

From Touki's Wikipedia:

Toussaint was considered one of the top prospects for the 2014 Major League Baseball Draft.[6] The Arizona Diamondbacks selected Toussaint in the first round, 16th overall, of the draft.[7] He signed on June 20. On June 20, 2015 he was traded to the Atlanta Braves along with Bronson Arroyo for Phil Gosselin.[8] After the trade, Dave Stewart was checked into a local Phoenix mental health facility.

Truly outstanding.

 

[GovClintonTyree]

Chris Johnson

And $10m.

What the hell? Seems to work everywhere else.

 

[GovClintonTyree]

Braves fans on this trade:

Diamondbacks fans on this trade

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Imagine what it must be like to be a DBack fan. They have spread their seed all over the league.

I mean, this deal is stupid, but Toussaint may or may not ever do anything. There's a long way to go.

Scherzer, on the other hand, or Upton, I remember looking at them and wondering what the hell they were doing.

They think they're the smartest guys in the room and talk themselves into all kinds of ****.

 

[GovClintonTyree]

If they can get Allard signed, the system is absolutely loaded with pitching.

No, I think it's pretty well loaded however you look at it.

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

Found this on Twitter:

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

JJ Cooper ‏@jjcoop36 54m54 minutes ago
For the Braves? Easy slam dunk. Take on some salary and trade away an inf who doesn't fit in their plans for a great arm? Sure.

 

[VirginiaBrave]

Could BA be viewed as insurance if Julio can't figure it out?

 

[Heyward]

No, I think it's pretty well loaded however you look at it.

Also true, they've done an amazing job stockpiling the roster with SP prospects the last year.

Bullpen is a whole nother story.

 

[GovClintonTyree]

Here is one http://forum.diamondbacksbullpen.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2574

Hahahahahahhaha - bless their hearts...

The spirit of Kevin Towers is alive and well and is screwing with the thought processes in the Diamondbacks front office. I guess someone in the FO will need to have their head spin completely around and vomit pea soup before they figure out they need an exorcist.

Trade your top pitching prospect for a guy on the DL - where he's expected to remain for the next six to eight weeks (according to Bert)? Yeah, this makes all kinds of sense - not.

I'm beginning to think the bag is a permanent one...

 

[GovClintonTyree]

Here is one http://forum.diamondbacksbullpen.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2574

The first word out of Stewart's mouth to the media about Gosselin was, “Gritty.” Make this up, you cannot.

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

Did the D'Backs have a handshake agreement with us that if Cahill blew up in our faces they owed us this type of deal later?

David O'Brien ‏@DOBrienAJC 38s38 seconds ago

#Dbacks must've felt bad about sending Cahill, decided they'd more than make it up to the #Braves

 

[blueagleace1]

Wonder if this move could mean a move to the bullpen for Folty?

 

[GovClintonTyree]

Wonder if this move could mean a move to the bullpen for Folty?

You suggested that the other day, didn't you?

Makes a lot of sense. Need help in the pen.

He'd be ideal to try my "two innings, not one" standard to try and take some strain off relief arms by having guys go two, pitch and warm up less often.