6/25/15: GDT - Atlanta Braves @ Washington Nationals

[sturg33]

There is actually a chance he will improve in that dept

In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever

 

[Russ2dollas]

In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever

he'll get his strength back after the break......all his strength comes from his neck

 

[chop2chip]

In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever

It's a good thing you are still complaining about a 115 wRC OF.

Let it go man.

 

[chop2chip]

GOLD glove.

3 yrs and 33 million left.

You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)

Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)

Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.

 

[Garmel]

Good idea to keep Uribe on the bench. It's paying dividends.

 

[thewupk]

i love the smell of bad defense in the afternoon

 

[thewupk]

You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)

Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)

Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.

In all fairness there is nothing wrong with the Markakis contract in and of itself. I thought it was a slight overpay at the time but he has outperformed that to this point. But what is a contract that we needed? We are rebuilding and was there a particular need for Nick at 4 years? Really good chance he is not playing to this level in 2017.

 

[Russ2dollas]

You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)
Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)
Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.

Understood. And I'm scared of the FA market in general.

if the Markakis deal was 2 years I'd love it. Even 2 years at 26 I'd be ok with it. But 4 years and 44.......

 

[NinersSBChamps]

Well this thing turned around quickly since Sunday evening.

 

[Jay212033]

Well this thing turned around quickly since Sunday evening.

Why are you so negative?!?!

 

[chop2chip]

Understood. And I'm scared of the FA market in general.

if the Markakis deal was 2 years I'd love it. Even 2 years at 26 I'd be ok with it. But 4 years and 44.......

I didn't like the process behind the contract, but let's say he's a 2.5 WAR player at the end of this year (his projection via ZIPS).

Markakis at 3 years 33 million (with no draft pick compensation) isn't terrible.

 

[gilesfan]

I didn't like the process behind the contract, but let's say he's a 2.5 WAR player at the end of this year (his projection via ZIPS).

Markakis at 3 years 33 million (with no draft pick compensation) isn't terrible.

Eh, what will the next 3 years look like? Any optimism that he will be even better?

 

[chop2chip]

In all fairness there is nothing wrong with the Markakis contract in and of itself. I thought it was a slight overpay at the time but he has outperformed that to this point. But what is a contract that we needed? We are rebuilding and was there a particular need for Nick at 4 years? Really good chance he is not playing to this level in 2017.

That's fair and that criticism will hold true forever.

But a lot of people act like his contract is destined to be a burden like Upton/Uggla. There is seriously no chance of that.

I agree the process was bad, but Nick isn't a bad player and doesn't deserve the criticism he gets.

 

[gilesfan]

That's fair and that criticism will hold true forever.

But a lot of people act like his contract is destined to be a burden like Upton/Uggla. There is seriously no chance of that.

I agree the process was bad, but Nick isn't a bad player and doesn't deserve the criticism he gets.

That is a good point and more of a criticism of the front office handing it out and then rebuilding.

 

[chop2chip]

Eh, what will the next 3 years look like? Any optimism that he will be even better?

No. He should regress, but that's not a terrible risk to take either, which is my point.

 

[chop2chip]

That is a good point and more of a criticism of the front office handing it out and then rebuilding.

The process was baffling, but considering the current state of the team, he kinda sorta fits.

 

[Pugfan]

Wisler can't locate for crap.

 

[Chipper]

Safe

 

[Runnin]

That was almost a classic fail for our boy,Yunel.

 

[NinersSBChamps]

Why are you so negative?!?!

Just telling it like it is. The Braves aren't good. If that's negative then so be it.