2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]

Hawk said:
Stop ... Hammertime. That fallacy set sail about a year ago. Hillary is a foaming liberal, and the Democratic base will amalgamate around her in due time because she is assuredly their best main-stream candidate.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b28-11e4-9ef4-1bb7ce3b3fb7_story.html?hpid=z1

Hillary Rodham Clinton is running as the most liberal Democratic presidential front-runner in decades, with positions on issues from gay marriage to immigration that would, in past elections, have put her at her party’s precarious left edge.

The moves are part of a strategic conclusion by Clinton’s emerging campaign: that it can harness the same kind of young and diverse coalition as Barack Obama did in 2008 and 2012, bolstered by even stronger appeal among women.

Her approach — outlined in interviews with aides and advisers — is a bet that social and demographic shifts mean that no left-leaning position Clinton takes now would be likely to hurt her in making her case to moderate and independent voters in the general election next year.
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if she's liberal, what does that make Bernie?
 
That may be so Hawk, but as recently as 3 yeas ago virtually no legislator favored gay marriage and no sitting Governor of Alabama would lift a word to take down a Confederate Battle Flag (better?)

I always thought Steven Colbert's in jest characterization of GWB insightful.
"He believes Wednesday what he believed Monday regardless of what happened Tuesday"
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I disagree with his stances on gun control and as the campaign moves along I fully expect to find 2 or things more I see differently
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I disagree with a great deal of Obama foreign policy.
But, would still vote for him if he ran again
 
sturg33 said:
I'm just wondering if the appeal of Bernie is his socialistic economic views or is it something else
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Yeah, Bernie is pretty socialistic about economics, but you know what, when you're experienced about 30 years of nothing short of fascist economics and the middle class has all but disappeared that brings out those sorts of candidates. I don't consider myself a fan of Bernie all in all, but I do agree with him about economics, at lest as far as who has screwed up this country's economics the most. Not that he would live long enough to do anything about it IF he were to get elected, but at least somebody is telling the truth about who the real aholes in this country are.
 
Oklahomahawk said:
Yeah, Bernie is pretty socialistic about economics, but you know what, when you're experienced about 30 years of nothing short of fascist economics and the middle class has all but disappeared that brings out those sorts of candidates. I don't consider myself a fan of Bernie all in all, but I do agree with him about economics, at lest as far as who has screwed up this country's economics the most. Not that he would live long enough to do anything about it IF he were to get elected, but at least somebody is telling the truth about who the real aholes in this country are.
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To be clear, the economic problems we have faced can directly be pointed to the Federal Reserve and our corporatism economic structure within our government
 
Where are Ehrlichman and Haldeman when you need them?

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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1fea...c1/state-dept-15-emails-missing-clinton-cache

U.S. officials say the State Department been unable to find in its records all or part of 15 work-related emails from Hillary Rodham Clinton's private server that were released this week by a House panel investigating the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya.

Clinton says she handed over all of her work correspondence from her tenure as secretary of state, but the officials said Thursday that these exchanges with longtime confidant Sidney Blumenthal weren't among the 55,000 pages she provided from her private email account.

The State Department's inability to find them among the emails she provided likely will raise new questions about her use of a personal email account and server while secretary of state and whether she has provided the agency all of her work-related correspondence, as she claims.
 
Hawk said:
Where are Ehrlichman and Haldeman when you need them?

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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1fea...c1/state-dept-15-emails-missing-clinton-cache

U.S. officials say the State Department been unable to find in its records all or part of 15 work-related emails from Hillary Rodham Clinton's private server that were released this week by a House panel investigating the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya.

Clinton says she handed over all of her work correspondence from her tenure as secretary of state, but the officials said Thursday that these exchanges with longtime confidant Sidney Blumenthal weren't among the 55,000 pages she provided from her private email account.

The State Department's inability to find them among the emails she provided likely will raise new questions about her use of a personal email account and server while secretary of state and whether she has provided the agency all of her work-related correspondence, as she claims.
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Are you guys ever gonna actually come up with a strategy that might actually work (without a comeback that will destroy you with independent voters)?
 
yeezus said:
if she's liberal, what does that make Bernie?
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If she's not a liberal, what does that make Bill? I often hear from the left that "Reagan wouldn't be welcome in today's Republican party." Would Bill Clinton be welcome in today's Democratic party?
 
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