7/8/15: GDT - Atlanta Braves @ Milwaukee Brewers

I'm way too happy about the team's future to be upset right now about this year (weird to say that), but that was a bad call and an even worse loss.
 
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That's two times today where the Braves were screwed on replays. Not really by the replay, but by the ump calling the initial plays out instead of safe. Both would have likely been upheld as too close to overturn no matter how they were called.
 
it would be nice to have the challenge in the 9th....

availan should not have been out there to start. He's been great vs RH after that....

Wish they would trade availan.....
 
msstate7 said:
Can't believe fredi left avilan out there. Jim Johnson Shouldve came on after 1st guy reached.
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Archaic though process with how to use your closer. The game was on the line with Gomez up. He should have been brought in at that point. But, you have to save Johnson to pitch to the bottom of the order!
 
Russ2dollas said:
it would be nice to have the challenge in the 9th....

availan should not have been out there to start. He's been great vs RH after that....

Wish they would trade availan.....
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Fredi should've stuck with what's been working... Run Johnson out in the 8th. Worry about the 9th when you get there. As it is, we saved Johnson for what? Colorado?
 
thethe said:
Archaic though process with how to use your closer. The game was on the line with Gomez up. He should have been brought in at that point. But, you have to save Johnson to pitch to the bottom of the order!
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Exactly. The 8th was the save. Kinda like in the playoffs when we saved Kimbrel for next year
 
msstate7 said:
FWIW radio guys said not enough evidence to overrule before decision was in
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The challenge-system in baseball heavily disincentives chancing your challenge early in the game on toss-up plays that aren't crucial and don't have a high likelihood of going your way. Fredi evidently does not comprehend this.
 
Pretty much every manager keeps their closer on the shelf until they lead, its the book.

None bring them in a whole lot in the 8th, in different situations.

Bad loss though.
 
USMA76 said:
I can live with blown games but it's the ones we lose in which we had huge leads that really grate on me e.g. eight runs against the Nats, six runs against the Mets, and four runs today when we were in position to sweep and get over .500. Those are the ones that really sting.
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This. It's extremely frustrating yet not even a little bit surprising at the same time. Our bullpen is just all kinds of incompetent. Despite that, and the firesale in the off-season to go into "rebuild" mode, we're still sitting at one game below .500 85 games into the season. With just a halfway competent bullpen this team would be in the wildcard and division hunt despite trading away most of our key pieces in the off-season.
 
Heyward said:
Pretty much every manager keeps their closer on the shelf until they lead, its the book.

None bring them in a whole lot in the 8th, in different situations.

Bad loss though.
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I don't really care what most other managers would do, though. It's not smart. Find one smarter than that.
 
Heyward said:
Pretty much every manager keeps their closer on the shelf until they lead, its the book.

None bring them in a whole lot in the 8th, in different situations.

Bad loss though.
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If you don't want a pitcher in a different situation, then shouldn't Johnson pitch the 8th? Johnson isn't the normal closer, so your hold him to a normal situation doesn't hold water.
 
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