Which Issue(s) Do You Struggle Most With?

acesfull86

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For me:

1) Abortion - I don't have a strong feeling about this issue, ie a candidate's stance on it will not make or break whether I support him/her, but I still think it's the most difficult issue to assume a position on. I can certainly sympathize with those who say "it's my body and I don't want the government to tell me what I can/can't do with it." If I was in that position, I'm sure I'd feel the same way. (As an aside, I do wish those women would extend that argument to other issues, but many do not). At the same time, I can sympathize with those who say it's murder. At some point between conception and birth, life begins. Once that point is reached, I do not think an abortion should be legal (unless maybe if the life of the mother was in danger). I feel like most folks would agree witht hat. But who the hell am I, or anyone else, to know where that point is? Some may say 8 months, some 4, some the millisecond after conception. I don't know. The safe position would probably be to assume life beginning earlier rather than later, though I find myself hedging my bets.

2) Taxation - as a libertarian, I think you should basically be able to do what you want unless your behavior causes direct harm to someone else. So murder, rape, theft, etc...no. Get high, get a high paying job while others are impoverished, marry someone of the same sex, etc...yes. It would be naive to suggest however, that the decisions we make in the marketplace never cause externalities. In theory, I think people should have to pay closer to the true social cost of their actions than they do now and taxation in this country would be better served targeting consumption rather than production. Maybe that means gas is an extra $x/gallon to reflect the true cost of the pollution (both emissions, and the decision to clog the road), but folks would keep more of the income they earn. On the macro level, tax receipts would be neutral (though if I had my way they would be much lower). You'd be raising costs on the people's behavior, but you would also be letting them keep more money in their pockets while giving them the choice as to how much to consume, given the true costs of their consumption.

Where I struggle with this idea is that it still involves a large amount of government oversight, plus the potential for manipulation. How do you determine the objective social cost of thousands and thousands of decisions? In theory, I believe one of the legitimate functions of the government is to correct market failures. But do I have faith that our elected officials can identify a legitimate market failure? No, not really. I think for many, the interpretation of "market failure" would be "outcome which doesn't conform to my preconceived notions, or which doesn't match what is in the best interest of my constituents, or which isn't the desired outcome of the labor or business leader who dropped off a bribe, etc, etc."

Further, even if you were able to identify the externality, price it correctly, collect the tax revenues, and move the market equilibrium to D = supply + social cost, there is still the issue of how do you distribute those revenues to those who are enduring the social cost? In some cases that task won't be difficult, but in others it will be easier said than done. And again, I struggle with the idea that government could efficiently and effectively carry this out. I do think it would be an improvement over our current models of taxation if we were to move in this direction, however.

Apologies for the certain typos/lack of eloquence...just killing time on my smartphone before a meeting. Not really looking to start debates, just wondering what political issues folks struggle with internally. I would think for those on the right, drug policy and other issues where freedom of the individual clashes with law and order would be difficult. For Democrats, I've often thought school choice would be a difficult issue to hash out. And for others, the issues I think are difficult might look cut and dry from a different perspective.
 
I really don't struggle with many issues anymore because I try to make every issue about personal liberty. But your second point does bring up an interesting perspective from a macro point of view about affecting others indirectly.

With regards to abortion, it's pretty cut and dry for me. We all deserve the right to life as does that fetus. The fact that a doctor or a judge would consider pregnancies as an additional person, but the random mom who wants to abort is able to override that, doesn't sit well with me. I also hate how the entire decision is completely stripped of the father. It's ridiculous.

I struggle with climate change a bit. On the one hand, there seems to be evidence that it's a legit problem. On the other hand, we're less than 5% of the world's population, and there are no guarantees on how to fix it. It's seems like an enormous cost to address, with no guarantees it will actually help.
 
1) The economy. I'm generally laissez-faire all the way, but also believe that the power of the government has the ability (sometimes) to do things better, quicker, and more efficiently. My opinions are constantly evolving here.

2) Affirmative Action. Not just specific to race, but also gender, age, religion, and sexual orientation. I recognize the inherent necessity of the concept, but tend to dislike how it has disenfranchised certain subsets and provided too clear a path for others.

3) Immigration. I like the idea of tough border control -- but embrace the traditional view of America as a nation of immigrants.
 
I also hate how the entire decision is completely stripped of the father. It's ridiculous.

This. One of my good friends recently got somebody pregnant and begged and pleaded with her not to have an abortion. He's monied enough to have easily taken care of the child and just felt extremely convicted about accepting the consequence of his actions. The girl kind of strung him along and then all of a sudden one day she was just like, boom, it's done. It's been eating him alive for months now. Sad, really.

I think the male should have a say if he's willing and able to take the child, but wouldn't go further than that.
 
This. One of my good friends recently got somebody pregnant and begged and pleaded with her not to have an abortion. He's monied enough to have easily taken care of the child and just felt extremely convicted about accepting the consequence of his actions. The girl kind of strung him along and then all of a sudden one day she was just like, boom, it's done. It's been eating him alive for months now. Sad, really.

I think the male should have a say if he's willing and able to take the child, but wouldn't go further than that.

But you can be sure if it were the other way around, the father would be on the hook for child support
 
I struggle with issues more because of complexity than philosophy. I make decisions based on what I see as pragmatic. For instance I struggle with foreign policy. I honestly don't know what to do about radicalism in the middle east. I'd prefer to be involved, but that ship has sailed because we're in too deep and some of these groups wouldn't miss a chance to take a shot at us if given the chance. I have very mixed feelings about Israel although for me U.S. interests are more important than anyone in the region from my perspective and I hate that they make it difficult to achieve peace. I honestly wouldn't care if we killed every Islamic radical and the people who sympathize with them, but obviously that's not realistic. I hate them, but I might negotiate with them if I felt it suited us. The only thing consistent about my philosophy on foreign policy is that I want to keep the U.S. safe and prosperous while expending as few resources both economic and human as possible. I'll hold my nose if I have to in order to accomplish that, but I really don't feel confident that I know what the right answer is.

People talk about abortion, but to me it's a very easy issue, and individual liberty is honestly a very small part of my opinion. Frankly I might horrify people on both sides of the issue, but I support abortion. Frankly my reason is that I like strong families although conservatives of this era would not be on board with my thinking. I want children born into supportive families who can raise them and help them to be law abiding and productive adults. Personally I think if you're a train wreck or you don't want kids you shouldn't have them. I also would very much prefer that children be born to married couples, and I think no one needs to have more than two kids although obviously you can't legislate that. I personally would beg people to use birth control and even incentivize sterilization to high risk individuals. I don't want criminals and drug addicts having a bunch of kids, and I don't want to pay for them either. If someone had children on drugs, was a serious child abuser, or neglected their children I'd give them a choice between sterilization or jail. Then as a society I'd do everything possible to help those were born into difficult circumstances overcome their situation and would be willing to put considerable resources into it. If you didn't have so many who needed help, you could do more for them. Of course I've probably ticked almost everyone off, but I'm not trying to pick a fight. That's honestly the way I feel about it.
 
The girl kind of strung him along and then all of a sudden one day she was just like, boom, it's done. It's been eating him alive for months now. Sad, really.

I think the male should have a say if he's willing and able to take the child, but wouldn't go further than that.

The guy did have a say. He was able to talk to the girl plenty before and after he was banging her and had time to show her he was father material. He also had a say in what kind of girl he chose to plant his seed in.

Mother Nature rightly puts this decision with the mother. There's a lot more to consider than just having the money to afford raising a kid. If the mother aint into it it's probably a future train wreck of grief.

This is an easy issue as long as it's hypothetical. When it becomes a decision for one's own life and of course the life of a future person, I think the political/moral stance is often thrown out the window. I've seen a very conservative man force his daughter to have the abortion because he didn't approve of his future son-in-law. And I've seen very pro-choice women have to face the fact that they could never ever make that particular choice.
 
The guy did have a say. He was able to talk to the girl plenty before and after he was banging her and had time to show her he was father material. He also had a say in what kind of girl he chose to plant his seed in.

You simply don't know that. Further, in most cases, it has literally next to nothing to do with whether or not the father is 'dad material'.

You point out a potential father as having 'chosen' to callously ejaculate into a woman, but don't appropriately share that blame in a world where women also have the option to a) take birth control (which, my friend, is now gratis for all) or b) take emergency contraception. If it gets to the point where you are actually talking about a pregnancy both sides are complicit.

Mother Nature rightly puts this decision with the mother. There's a lot more to consider than just having the money to afford raising a kid. If the mother aint into it it's probably a future train wreck of grief.

I agree with you in that when the parental unit is fractured it's a problematic situation for the upbringing of a child that goes far beyond money. That said, like Sturg mentioned earlier, you shouldn't use the same biological underpinnings which hold men responsible for their contribution to a pregnancy and then bewilderingly not make them applicable to women, too (especially under the guise of 'Mother Nature says' which is just kind of ... silly, not to mention scientifically incorrect).

This is an easy issue as long as it's hypothetical. When it becomes a decision for one's own life and of course the life of a future person, I think the political/moral stance is often thrown out the window. I've seen a very conservative man force his daughter to have the abortion because he didn't approve of his future son-in-law. And I've seen very pro-choice women have to face the fact that they could never ever make that particular choice.

I generally have no problem with abortion itself, but this has less to do with the act itself and more to do with individual rights. I'm not foolish enough to believe that you can ever force a women who doesn't want a child to bring one to full-term, but we should strive to be more acutely aware of underlying issues here and how both sides are affected in the process.
 
What I am struggling with is how we are going to avoid economic collapse with the increase in automation leading to less jobs. Making a product cheaper is great but you still need people with money to buy it. I really see no way that this doesnt end in economic collapse other than becoming more of a socialist state.
 
"The release of a video showing Dr. Deborah Nucatola, Senior Director of Planned Parenthood's Medical Services Department, allegedly speaking of how to extract the body part of aborted children for commercial purposes is shocking but should not shock. Indeed, if you are shocked, you need to ask yourself why. It actually represents in miniature the quintessence of much of modern culture.



First, it is the logical outcome of the chaotic notion of the self that now rules in the West. If the self is a psychologically self-determined identity, then those incapable of such are not persons until such time as they can do so. Peter Singer has merely given systematic philosophical form to what many people unreflectively believe. Thus, if you call Bruce Jenner 'Caitlyn,' you have no right to be shocked.



Second, it is the logical outcome of denying personhood to the unborn child and maintaining that it is simply part of the mother's own body. Within such a framework, extracting body parts for commercial reasons is no more obnoxious than selling one's hair to a wig maker. If you typically talk about fetuses and not about unborn children, you have no right to be shocked.



Third, it is the logical outcome of individual sovereignty over our own bodies. If you believe that you have the right to do with your body what you will, sexually or otherwise, then you have no right to be shocked.



Fourth, it is the logical outcome of the commercialization of the body. If you watch pornography or if you think prostitution should be legalized, then you have no basis to find the commercial aspect of this action distasteful or morally objectionable. You have no right to be shocked.



Fifth, it is the logical outcome of a therapeutic world which has made the masters of medical technique into the moral philosophers of our society and where truth is identified with being cured, whether the ailment be physical or psychological. If it can be done and it if helps somebody somewhere, then not only ought it to be done - it must be done and to demur is immoral. If you think medical research trumps everything, you have no right to be shocked.



In fact, Planned Parenthood is not to be condemned. Surely it is to be congratulated for having so perfectly summarized the spirit of our age."

- See more at: http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2015/07/congratulating-planned-parenth.php#sthash.QHcdYM8s.dpuf
 
Planned Parenthood - figures: Link if you dare.

Selling those parts of "future human beings." Culture of death - yep. This country deserves to be damned.

Culture of death, of unbridled greed, of violence, racism...

Reverend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sadly very few seem to want to actually fix any of this, just to use those terrible things for their political or socioeconomic advantage, not to mention keep Americans firmly segregated and locked into their own little groups, we're easier to control that way...
 
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