And when the protests gained steam it was quickly crushed.
The Iran Deal
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And when the protests gained steam it was quickly crushed.
That's not exactly what happened, but ok.
You don't have 7 months of protests for them to all of the sudden be "quickly crushed".
Of course not. They are a country run by radicals. They don't use logic in their decisions at all. This "agreement" will end like all others have.
Yeah; 2016 and 2016.
Also, guess you haven't been paying attention to our military mobilization and weapons deals across Eastern Europe and beyond -- we've clearly engaged Russia on a level far beyond economic sanctions.
Oh yeah, Putin has an 84% approval rating.
acesfull86
Well-known member
BedellBrave
It's OVER 5,000!
The one we didn't support... Probably won't support the next one if it happens any time soon.
Just browsing http://www.yooz.ir/ (One of Iran's search engines) and using Google Translate to read the content (or lack thereof) makes me so thankful to not be living in a theocracy.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
That would have been more like a fumble or dereliction of duty. More than likely he just bought us a few more years. Like a 30 yard punt from your own five yard line. This is exactly what I expected he would do.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
That's honest, but kind of a dumb thing to say after you went on national tv and proclaimed to the world how great this deal is.
Now he can say "See, I called it" no matter what happens. Genius!
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
In answer to the first, I'm reminded of a joke during the hostage crisis of 1979 and 1980 when Iran raided the US Embassy. The joke went, "What's hot, sandy, and glows in the dark?" Answer: "Iran the day after Reagan takes office." Same thing here only insert "day after Iran breaks the treaty."
As for Israel (and I have a lot of respect for Netanyahu although I disagree with his methods), it's one thing giving the finger to the United States during an election campaign. It's another thing to give the finger to the entire West. I sympathize with Israel in the short term because Hezbollah is going to get some cash. In the long term, it likely doesn't make much of a difference. And as much as I agree that Israel has a right to exist and can take the steps it believes it needs to take to ensure that goal, they are really only the West's ally in the region to the extent that they are the best of a bad lot of actors with extremely focused goals and objectives.
This is about limiting Iran's nuclear capability and that is what it should be judged upon. I don't think it will change the landscape of the Middle East that much.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
not even sure what this empty rhetoric actually means or what it is trying to infer
mossy
<B>Hysterical Girlfriend<BR>That Storms Out and</B
Why does this have to have anything to do with us? Can't the other middle eastern countries solve the issue?
Obama/Kerry will receive criticism from the right (that's politics, and in politics when you don't get your way, you whine like a spoiled brat and scream that the end is near because one guy didnt do things our way).
Never should have been in Iraq either.
Obama/Kerry will receive criticism from the right (that's politics, and in politics when you don't get your way, you whine like a spoiled brat and scream that the end is near because one guy didnt do things our way).
Never should have been in Iraq either.
Sens. Chuck Schumer/Jon Tester (of the Democratic leadership -- Schumer being the next LEADER of the party) have voiced concerns.
Chris Coons/Robert Menendez/Dick Durbin/Joe Manchin are other Democratic Senators who aren't exactly happy.
I'm sure plenty more in the House.
So, no, this isn't just the 'right' ...
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...own-press-conference-120156.html#ixzz3g0ExeiD
Obama bristled when Garrett said the president should have to answer for the celebration around the deal, when the detained Americans remain in Iran.
“As you well know, there are four Americans in Iran, three held on trumped-up charges ,according to your administration, one whereabouts unknown,” Garrett said. “Can you tell the country, Sir, why you are content with all the fanfare around this deal to leave the conscience of this nation and the strength of this nation unaccounted for in relation to these four Americans?”
Obama responded: “I gotta give you credit, Major, for how you craft those questions. The notion that I’m content as I celebrate with American citizens languishing in Iranian jails. Major, that’s nonsense and you should know better.”
This came after Obama had interrupted multiple journalists, including shutting down a question on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump before it was finished.
Obama bristled when Garrett said the president should have to answer for the celebration around the deal, when the detained Americans remain in Iran.
“As you well know, there are four Americans in Iran, three held on trumped-up charges ,according to your administration, one whereabouts unknown,” Garrett said. “Can you tell the country, Sir, why you are content with all the fanfare around this deal to leave the conscience of this nation and the strength of this nation unaccounted for in relation to these four Americans?”
Obama responded: “I gotta give you credit, Major, for how you craft those questions. The notion that I’m content as I celebrate with American citizens languishing in Iranian jails. Major, that’s nonsense and you should know better.”
This came after Obama had interrupted multiple journalists, including shutting down a question on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump before it was finished.
Runnin
Well-known member
That is so funny and so typical. You know nothing about the deal but are totally against it. Now who's the one with a hook in his mouth?
I've stated no opinion except that deals and diplomacy are better than marching to war and dropping bombs.
You dropped a canned line if your very first post about the GOP having 'less political real estate' and 'nary an idea' which told me all I needed to know about your 'opinion' and greater comprehension of the issue at large.
And was that really your best attempt to throw shade?
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
It's a farce of course, they will back stab us, but I won't blame the Iranian people, let's say 100% population, give or take 70 to 80% would like to westernize. Hell their whole government cabinet is westernized, but like someone said, they manage the country, not run the country and the one who makes ALL final decisions is what makes the country dangerous.
Just like Bush as president, Cheney was the real leader pulling the strings, f*cking up the country in the process. Obama tried to do the anti-Cheney of appeasing, does not work like that and now we are known as limped-dicks with no spine at all Muricans, bark bark bark bark, grin, bark bark bark grin, that is our president.
Obama has Kardashian blood in him, no doubt. "Come look at me now!"
Just like Bush as president, Cheney was the real leader pulling the strings, f*cking up the country in the process. Obama tried to do the anti-Cheney of appeasing, does not work like that and now we are known as limped-dicks with no spine at all Muricans, bark bark bark bark, grin, bark bark bark grin, that is our president.
Obama has Kardashian blood in him, no doubt. "Come look at me now!"