The Iran Deal

thethe said:
Antisemitism runs deep Hawk. Regardless of facts there are many that will always hate Israel.
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Lol Anti-semitism. If you're gonna accuse me of something at least spell it right. Also I can support the Jewish people and not believe we should be propping up a nation that the UN created. We're talking billions and billions spent there.
 
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zitothebrave said:
Lol Anti-semitism. If you're gonna accuse me of something at least spell it right. Also I can support the Jewish people and not believe we should be propping up a nation that the UN created. We're talking billions and billions spent there.
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You were pretty anti-Jew in that thread you posted months back. And after you took grief for your stance you deleted every post you posted in that thread
 
Krgrecw said:
You were pretty anti-Jew in that thread you posted months back. And after you took grief for your stance you deleted every post you posted in that thread
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I deleted every post because no one was discussing the thread. It was tiresome.

Again, being anti-Israel isn't anti-Semitic. It's like (as I pointed out) me calling you anti-Slavic because you hate Russia.
 
The Onion has been a bit more on-the-nose than ever the past few months.
 
BedellBrave said:
Here's my main problem with it beyond the failure to get the hostages released - 4 hostages - just 4 - it addresses no human rights concerns of the international community. None. Why that doesn't trouble liberals I haven't a clue. I never did understand why you guys weren't more supportive of the Green Revolution.
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One can be troubled and still think this is a good start, considering the largely fruitless binary bluster of the past few decades.
 
zitothebrave said:
I deleted every post because no one was discussing the thread. It was tiresome.

Again, being anti-Israel isn't anti-Semitic. It's like (as I pointed out) me calling you anti-Slavic because you hate Russia.
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Well, considering that Israel was created to give the Jews a homeland so they wouldn't be systematically eradicated anymore then yes I and many others would consider it the same thing.

Zito, the jig is up. You showed your true colors back in that threat that KG mentioned. We all know that you don't like the Jews. To each his own. I met many like you growing up so its not a shock to me.
 
Hawk said:
Ash Carter is currently in Tel Aviv attempting to placate the Israelis and said today that the agreement didn't preclude the United States from taking military action against Iran. Meanwhile, many believe that the sole purpose of this trip is to lay the groundwork for additional military support to Israel.

So, we have the Secretary of Defense saying that military options are still on the table and we're supplying Israel with more weaponry.

What a vote of confidence. And the ink isn't even dry.
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President brought that up during his 6:30 AM roll out announcement Tuesday or Wednesday.
 
The morning he announced a deal was struck. I was on the way to work 6:30 AM. Don't remember what day it was
 
BedellBrave said:
Well that was what I was arguing against - the homeristic, "it was either this deal or air-land-sea war against Iran, so POTUS is fantastic!" argument.

To answer your question - there are various choices and combinations of limited strikes, proxy war, covert-operations, digital warfare, heightened espionage, etc. Yet, any military option would need to be a part of a fuller and longer term strategy, and not a stand-alone "solution."
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Sure. By the way, what do you think are the chances that overt or covert military action is likely to have repercussions that lead to further commitment of military resources to the region. . . i.e. war?
 
Julio3000 said:
Sure. By the way, what do you think are the chances that overt or covert military action is likely to have repercussions that lead to further commitment of military resources to the region. . . i.e. war?
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What if they uncover sensative information that would make a broader military option make more sense?
 
thethe said:
Well, considering that Israel was created to give the Jews a homeland so they wouldn't be systematically eradicated anymore then yes I and many others would consider it the same thing.

Zito, the jig is up. You showed your true colors back in that threat that KG mentioned. We all know that you don't like the Jews. To each his own. I met many like you growing up so its not a shock to me.
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Actually Israel was created cause no one wanted all the jews who were displaced by the Nazis, and no one cared about/liked the Middle East, so lets let them kill each other. But nice whitewashing of history. "we care so much about the jews we put them in a place they'd perpetually be in war at" that's maybe my favorite.

I didn't show any colors. I have plenty of friends from all kinds of racial, religious, and socioeconomic backgrounds. All i said in that thread is at what point do we stop supporting Israel? When have they committed one too many crimes against humanity? And it's a valid question. Unfortunately you've been lied to over and over again about the State of Israel so you think it's some kind of deserved Eutopia when again, it was made cause no one wanted European Jews in Europe.
 
You just said the same thing I did in another form and think it says something else.

Everyone who remembered that thread before you shadly delete your posts know where you stand. The dye has been cast.
 
thethe said:
You just said the same thing I did in another form and think it says something else.

Everyone who remembered that thread before you shadly delete your posts know where you stand. The dye gas been cast.
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Die has been cast. ANd that's the wrong idiom to use anyone. Die has been cast means that things are already in motion.

ANd I didn't shadily delete anything, no one was discussing the thread, which again was at what point do we stop sponsoring Israel if they keep committing human rights violations, and instead I was just called Anti-Semitic. It would be akin to someone talking about trying to end gang violence and someone just calling them racist rather then discussing the points. I deleted my posts because the thread was moronic and the discussion didn't happen. If you don't care for that I don't care. But our state sponsoring of terrorism, human rights violation, and despots is something I take very seriously. Sorry if that offends you.
 
Just trying to change history. Those of us that remember know what you are. That's fine because there have been millions of people just like you in history. It's not a shock to me.
 
If you don't want people to call you anti-Semitic then perhaps you shouldn't say anti-Semitic things like, "Actually Israel was created cause no one wanted all the jews" or "it was made cause no one wanted European Jews in Europe." That kind of language is culturally insensitive, not to mention historically inaccurate.

So, maybe you should stop trying to double-down on your bull****.
 
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