Trade Deadline/Rumors thread

dak said:
Craig Calcaterra ‏@craigcalcaterra 3m3 minutes ago
Hearing Aramis Ramirez is going to Pittsburgh. If someone else had this before me, blame my kids. But it's happening.
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To piggy-back on that tweet:
Bill Brink ‏@BrinkPG 2m2 minutes ago
Sources: Pirates and Brewers nearing agreement on a trade that would send 3B Aramis Ramirez to Pittsburgh.
 
Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 3m3 minutes ago
#Dbacks getting lots of calls on Brad Ziegler. Telling teams they'd have to be "overwhelmed'' to move him. 1.08 ERA in 41.2 I
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 3m3 minutes ago
#Dbacks getting lots of calls on Brad Ziegler. Telling teams they'd have to be "overwhelmed'' to move him. 1.08 ERA in 41.2 I
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Overwhelmed for a reliever? Geez, the D-Backs are a stupid organization.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
To piggy-back on that tweet:
Bill Brink ‏@BrinkPG 2m2 minutes ago
Sources: Pirates and Brewers nearing agreement on a trade that would send 3B Aramis Ramirez to Pittsburgh.
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One less potential suitor for Uribe.

Got a feeling things are about to break loose in a BIG way.
 
Jonathan Mayo ‏@JonathanMayo 6s7 seconds ago
Aramis Ramirez is indeed coming to join the @Pirates. Pittsburgh is sending RHP Yhonathan Barrios to the @Brewers.

Milwaukee Brewers ‏@Brewers 1m1 minute ago
Third baseman Aramis Ramirez and cash considerations have been traded to Pittsburgh in exchange for minor league RHP Yhonathan Barrios.
 
Fangraphs write-up on Barrios from April . . .

30. Yhonathan Barrios, RHP Video: The 5’11/180 Dominican reliever converted to the mound late in 2013 and played at both A-Ball levels in 2014. His delivery is low effort for a reliever, he sits 94-98 and hits 100 mph with above average life and also mixes in a solid average changeup and a fringy slider. His command that isn’t that bad, given the conversion and arm speed, and he’s still learning to pitch, so there’s more upside here.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/evaluating-the-prospects-pittsburgh-pirates/
 
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 58s58 seconds ago
Source: #Pirates taking on $3M of Ramirez’s remaining salary.
 
This actually gives us a decent idea of what we can get for Uribe if we send no cash to the acquiring team. His baseball value is similar to that of Ramirez, and the $3m sent comes close to making the $ cost equal.
 
dak said:
Completely agree. The Braves could have (and should have) done better, but this is far from a franchise crippling move. Signing a 30-year old David Price to an 8-year deal . . . now that's the type of thing than can be a franchise crippling move if you're a mid-market team.
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Who's going to sign Price for 8?

I expect he will get something between what Lester and Sherzer got with the years having an effect on the per year total.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Who's going to sign Price for 8?

I expect he will get something between what Lester and Sherzer got with the years having an effect on the per year total.
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Fair point. Scherzer was the comp I had in mind, and I thought is was 8 yrs off the top of my head. It's actually 7 for $210m.
 
Price WON'T get 7 years guaranteed money. He'll likely get 6 with some type of option and he'll likely average between $25-$28M. The market this year is different from other years. price likely won't be the top FA pitcher available. That will probably be Greinke. Then you've got a number of guys right below that level in Zimmerman, Gallardo, Cueto, Smardzjia, etc.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Price WON'T get 7 years guaranteed money. He'll likely get 6 with some type of option and he'll likely average between $25-$28M. The market this year is different from other years. price likely won't be the top FA pitcher available. That will probably be Greinke. Then you've got a number of guys right below that level in Zimmerman, Gallardo, Cueto, Smardzjia, etc.
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I think Price has more value than Greinke, personally. He's two years younger and that will definitely be a factor. Price is really well thought of in the clubhouse, and Greinke's personality is . . . unique. As you point out, it will be interesting how the different market conditions will effect how much the top guys get. I'm guessing it won't be a big factor, but we'll see.
 
dak said:
This actually gives us a decent idea of what we can get for Uribe if we send no cash to the acquiring team. His baseball value is similar to that of Ramirez, and the $3m sent comes close to making the $ cost equal.
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I think Uribe should have a little more value, but we'll see. Uribe has been worth 1 WAR just in his time in Atlanta, where Ramirez has been below replacement level this year. And Uribe put up about 8 combined the two years prior.

I think we can potentially get a pretty high-upside prospect. Nothing close to a Toussaint but better than what Milwaukee got.
 
smootness said:
I think Uribe should have a little more value, but we'll see. Uribe has been worth 1 WAR just in his time in Atlanta, where Ramirez has been below replacement level this year. And Uribe put up about 8 combined the two years prior.

I think we can potentially get a pretty high-upside prospect. Nothing close to a Toussaint but better than what Milwaukee got.
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Plus you don't know what the Brewers promised Ramirez. He's already said that he's retiring. Maybe they said they would trade him to a contender if they were out.

Uribe's not going to bring much but it will be better than what the Brewers got.
 
dak said:
I think Price has more value than Greinke, personally. He's two years younger and that will definitely be a factor. Price is really well thought of in the clubhouse, and Greinke's personality is . . . unique. As you point out, it will be interesting how the different market conditions will effect how much the top guys get. I'm guessing it won't be a big factor, but we'll see.
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Price has more innings on the arm. But, the personality thing may play a part.
 
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