Farewell to Wood, Peraza, Jimmy Johns, and Avilans.

[gilesfan]

Wood has seen a pretty steady decline in his fastball velocity since he came up. His velocity chart is eerily similar to Hanson's before he fell apart.

Thats essentially ever pitcher in history. Pitchers lose velocity in their mid 20s. .

 

[Julio3000]

Given how fond we are of gimpy elbows, Olivera kinda makes sense as a logical extent of the concept. I mean, dude has a blood disorder that might actually be life-threatening. TJ surgery is for amateurs.

 

[Hawk]

 

[Heyward]

Rangers look to be getting Hamels.

Wonder what they traded if Amaro finally trades Hamels.

 

[Heyward]

Lol

you think Peraza > Albies?

 

[thethe]

Then we gave up Peraza too. And a closer/Set up man.

I would do Wood for Oliveira right now. Especially factoring in rebuilding team

Yeah, the inclusion of Peraza is a bit puzzling for sure. They have to really like this kid Bird as a long term project. Supposedly he is very athletic and still has a projectable arm.

LIke you said, the deal to me is as follows:

Wood for Olivera
Peraza for Bird
Everything else for the comp pick and Paco.

Its a big if but if Olivera is as good as the scouts are saying then you have a legit impact bat at peanuts. That affords the Braves so much damn flexbility to make some moves.

I personally have always felt Wood is on the path to another TJ surgery. Until then he is a borderline TOR pitcher. I think Olivera will be an impact player in the big leagues for far longer than Wood.

 

[atl717]

Peraza is younger and much cheaper than Olivera. Thats kind of important. Oh yeah, we gave up Wood too lol.

 

[Five]

Is it an upgrade?? Olivera is 30. We aren't competing this year or next. Why take a 30 year old as the headliner for Wood our top 21 year old prospect?

I agree. Throwing in Peraza as well? Jesus.

 

[NinersSBChamps]

It's the age that bothers me. It's very high risk. He could fall off a cliff.

From a statistical standpoint. I don't think age has any bearing on if someone falls off a cliff.

 

[thethe]

Wood has seen a pretty steady decline in his fastball velocity since he came up. His velocity chart is eerily similar to Hanson's before he fell apart.

The writing is on the wall if you ask me.

 

[Krovahn]

I mean, I've heard that the Bird is the word... but I am going to miss me some good Wood and some Johnson... Damn.

 

[Dalyn]

If it were Teheran instead of Wood, it would still be questionable. With Wood, it's ****ing awful. I feel like Hart has done everything he could since the Heyward trade with the idea of making that trade look good. Congratulations, Hart! The Heyward trade looks fantastic now.

 

[smootness]

Uh....Wood is worth way freaking more than Olivera, and Peraza is worth way freaking more than Bird.

 

[Hawk]

So basically nobody likes this deal except for thethe, right?

(Not picking at you thethe, just keeping tally)

 

[SidSlid92]

Wood/Olivera-major loss

Peraza/Bird-major loss

JJ/Paco-long term win but minimal in the grand scheme

Avilan/pick-good win

The first 2 losses in no way maKe up for the last 2 pieces. I just don't get this.

 

[weso1]

Wood has seen a pretty steady decline in his fastball velocity since he came up. His velocity chart is eerily similar to Hanson's before he fell apart.

It's been pretty steady since his rookie year though, when he may have been over throwing to impress, and maybe in the pen where he could just air it out.

 

[Heyward]

If Olivera was 25-26 this would be fine but he has maybe 3-4 good years unless he ages well.

 

[CyYoung31]

Given how fond we are of gimpy elbows, Olivera kinda makes sense as a logical extent of the concept. I mean, dude has a blood disorder that might actually be life-threatening. TJ surgery is for amateurs.

He has a gimpy elbow too.

 

[Russ2dollas]

Its possible that this is the case. Its also possible that Wood has another TJ surgery in the next 2 years and his caerer is over. I was all about trading Wood since the start of the season.

Lots of ppl are in on trading wood...me included. BUT not for this?

If it's Olivera they better take the entire signing bonus. Then it's 6 years and 30 million only. That's a pretty good deal if he can just be 1 WAR from a cost perspective.

But you have to get more. For Wood and Peraza you need 2 ELite guys and zach Bird.

Feels like 3 years of wood and 6 years of Peraza for 4 years of a 3B hitting 250 with 15 HR, a pick, and a guy that sounds a lot like Folty

 

[atl717]

Yeah, the inclusion of Peraza is a bit puzzling for sure. They have to really like this kid Bird as a long term project. Supposedly he is very athletic and still has a projectable arm.

LIke you said, the deal to me is as follows:

Wood for Olivera

Peraza for Bird

Everything else for the comp pick and Paco.

Its a big if but if Olivera is as good as the scouts are saying then you have a legit impact bat at peanuts. That affords the Braves so much damn flexbility to make some moves.

I personally have always felt Wood is on the path to another TJ surgery. Until then he is a borderline TOR pitcher. I think Olivera will be an impact player in the big leagues for far longer than Wood.

Who cares what happens to Wood. Its about value. Wood is worth more than this.