True Detective: Season 2 stars named

I think people need to do their best to separate htis from Season 1 to appreciate it more.

I loved season 1, fantastic leads, environment, themes, and acting.

Season 2 is a different cast, mystery, production altogether. I think by itself it's better than a lot of what's on TV, it's just Season 1 is held in such high regard (a lot in due part thanks to MM, and the advantage of having the desolate southern backwoods creepiness to help it). What Season 2 could have done is make Vinci feel so big that it's almost impossible to solve the mystery just like the Bayou area was so big in Season 1 they had to really dig deep to investigate and solve it. They've tried to do with with constant shots of the interstate and tons of cars driving around, but it could be pulled off better.

I mean so far things have almost fallen into the hands of the detectives. Kitsch goes on his motorcycle ride, and happens to find Casper's body. McAdams' investigating a prostitution raid happens to find her sister. Then she investigates the missing Mexican girl, and that girl happens to have worked at her dad's retreat. Then last night the suspect just so happens to set off the missing car at the same time Stache and McAdams are doing police work at the driver's house.

These are hollywood coincidences, whereas Season 1 actually had great detective work.
 
This year's story is easier to follow. I thought season one's plot resolution was weak. A lot of weird conjecture that never went anywhere.
 
Runnin said:
This week's show, episode 7, was the best of the season so far. imo
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Maybe the best the show has ever done. It basically made this entire convoluted plot make at least a modicum of sense.

Vince Vaughn has been out of his element on the show, but he was fantastic in this episode.
 
chop2chip said:
Vince Vaughn has been out of his element on the show, but he was fantastic in this episode.
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I was extremely skeptical when I first learned of his casting, but I actually think Vince Vaughn has been one of the brightest spots of this season. Especially during the first three or four episodes, he was responsible for many of my favorite moments and was involved in most of my favorite scenes.
 
jpx7 said:
I was extremely skeptical when I first learned of his casting, but I actually think Vince Vaughn has been one of the brightest spots of this season. Especially during the first three or four episodes, he was responsible for many of my favorite moments and was involved in most of my favorite scenes.
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I'll have to watch the whole season again because I'm still not quite clicking because it's so convoluted, but Vaughn has been the highlight for me and I think he's done the best job of the cast. It seems the writers want to have at least one character who spouts some measure of philosophy. Last year it was McConaughey and this year it's Vaughn. It's been interesting to watch Vaughn's character devolve from aspirations of legitimacy to thuggery.
 
Vaughn's character was rough the first few episodes. However the second half of the season he's won me over.

The most recent episode in particular really really won me over. I do like his character arc.

The leads have all actually been really good this season in hindsight. Kitsch, McAdams, Trash Stache, and Vaughn.
 
chop2chip said:
Maybe the best the show has ever done. It basically made this entire convoluted plot make at least a modicum of sense.

Vince Vaughn has been out of his element on the show, but he was fantastic in this episode.
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It is.
 
Heywood said:
Vaughn's character was rough the first few episodes. However the second half of the season he's won me over.

The most recent episode in particular really really won me over. I do like his character arc.

The leads have all actually been really good this season in hindsight. Kitsch, McAdams, Trash Stache, and Vaughn.
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I don't feel like Kitsch has contributed much...at all.
 
It was the best this season, but I disagree about overall. Episodes 4-5 of the first season are far and away superior to anything Season 2 has done.
 
Tapate50 said:
I don't feel like Kitsch has contributed much...at all.
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If the end of the last episode is any indication, he'll be contributing even less going forward.

I think the feel of the season is a lot different. The big difference this year is that a lot of focus has been on a semi-villian (Vaughn) as opposed to the action being focused almost solely on the protagonists as it was last season. Thus, we've seen the same plot line told from different angles. I think it's been a much messier story this year with a lot of extraneous backstory material for each of the cops. Did we need to know about David Morse's character at all? I don't think the rape of Farrell's ex added much. Kitsch's character's gay dalliance while in the Mideast? Just seemed to overload things too much.
 
Dalyn said:
Unlike a lot of people, I'm really enjoying the season.
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I've really enjoyed it since episode-two, internet chatter be damned.

(I do still think season-one was superior, but that fact doesn't detract from season-two's quality.)
 
50PoundHead said:
I think the feel of the season is a lot different. The big difference this year is that a lot of focus has been on a semi-villian (Vaughn) as opposed to the action being focused almost solely on the protagonists as it was last season. Thus, we've seen the same plot line told from different angles. I think it's been a much messier story this year with a lot of extraneous backstory material for each of the cops. Did we need to know about David Morse's character at all? I don't think the rape of Farrell's ex added much. Kitsch's character's gay dalliance while in the Mideast? Just seemed to overload things too much.
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To me, that's part of the difference: while last season was this wonderful mélange of Southern Gothic, late-nineteenth-century dark-fantasy, and buddy-cop, this season is more straight-up Los Angeles noir, which traditionally demands some convolution of plot in good measure.
 
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