8/4/2015 TUESDAY MINORS FINAL ... Bird watching in ATL; Hessman Minors HR King

clvclv said:
Maybe so you big homer. But, but, but Riley was a stretch!!!
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Holy **** this is gonna get old.

I laugh because just a few posts up someone mentioned how Hursh was a major reach... and look how he's turned out.

By all accounts, Riley could have been had in later rounds. The Braves didn't want to risk not getting him ,so they took him early. There's not much wrong with that. It's just saying that the Braves didn't necessarily take the best player available at the time of the picl.
 
sturg33 said:
By all accounts, Riley could have been had in later rounds.
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I don't see how we can say this without information on the draft boards of the other 29 teams. In baseball, draft boards diverge quite a bit after the consensus top 20 or 30 players.
 
nsacpi said:
I don't see how we can say this without information on the draft boards of the other 29 teams. In baseball, draft boards diverge quite a bit after the consensus top 20 or 30 players.
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That's exactly right. That's why the braves chose to take him when they did. And that is fine. They really liked him and didn't want to risk losing him
 
sturg33 said:
That's exactly right. That's why the braves chose to take him when they did. And that is fine. They really liked him and didn't want to risk losing him
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And I think they wanted to take him close to the slot value at which he would sign so they wouldn't have to move too much money around. They went over slot for him, but if they would have taken him later, they would have had to move a lot more money around to accommodate his asking price. Not impossible, but tricky.
 
50PoundHead said:
And I think they wanted to take him close to the slot value at which he would sign so they wouldn't have to move too much money around. They went over slot for him, but if they would have taken him later, they would have had to move a lot more money around to accommodate his asking price. Not impossible, but tricky.
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Agreed. That doesn't change the fact that he may not have been the 41st best player in the draft. I'm not saying the Braves were wrong to draft him where they were - but by all accounts from a talent level, he could have had been later.

I'm just tired of reading "HE WAS A REACH" every time he gets a base hit
 
I like our 2015 draft quite a bit, both in terms of the general approach and the results so far.

In terms of general approach, we went mostly with high upside high school players early (Allard, Soroka, Riley, Herbert, Guardado) and then mostly took college players. That is the right approach. Even the unusual run of 9 consecutive college pitchers from round 4 to round 12 made sense for a couple reasons. First, looking at historical yield by portion of the draft, college pitchers are a good investment in the portion of the draft. Second, we had some holes to fill minor league system in terms of pitching depth. Third, the international signings in the past few years are heavily tilted towards hitters and drafting a lot of pitchers to balance this makes sense.

I also liked that we continued on a selective basis to look for high school players later in the draft. We took Keller in round 15, Suarez in round 18 and Hellinger in round 20. All three look like very good picks for those rounds.

In general, the guys we drafted this year have shown well early. This does not guarantee anything regarding their later development. But it is better than most of them struggling.
 
sturg33 said:
Holy **** this is gonna get old.

I laugh because just a few posts up someone mentioned how Hursh was a major reach... and look how he's turned out.

By all accounts, Riley could have been had in later rounds. The Braves didn't want to risk not getting him ,so they took him early. There's not much wrong with that. It's just saying that the Braves didn't necessarily take the best player available at the time of the picl.
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I don't think you have room to complain about anyone beating something to death. Just my .02.
 
Tapate50 said:
I don't think you have room to complain about anyone beating something to death. Just my .02.
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The Braves kool-aid drinkers on this board have become insufferable. Basically, anything the front office does that works out is a victory lap of I TOLD YOU!!! And anything that doesn't is just excuses
 
sturg33 said:
The Braves kool-aid drinkers on this board have become insufferable. Basically, anything the front office does that works out is a victory lap of I TOLD YOU!!! And anything that doesn't is just excuses
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Are you new here?

There are just as many that hate EVERY SINGLE MOVE without question. If you are being as objective as you think yourself to be, you would see that too.
 
sturg33 said:
Once he stops saying stupid things, he'll get less attention.

As a reminder, thethe said it comforts him when he thinks I'm wrong.
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You say a lot of stupid things and I'm not up your ass 24/7 for it. Seriously, your obsession with thethe is downright creepy.
 
sturg33 said:
The Braves kool-aid drinkers on this board have become insufferable. Basically, anything the front office does that works out is a victory lap of I TOLD YOU!!! And anything that doesn't is just excuses
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Even though I haven't been a "Kool-Aid" drinker with these trades, the bitching and moaning by the doomsayers has been just as insufferable, and the same statements apply in reverse...IMO.
 
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