We Finance Barbarism

zitothebrave said:
You do realize how misogynistic you sound whne you say that right:
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Please. This is Barbara Boxer we are talking about. And I'm not the one advocating for the elective, mutilation and destruction of the most defenseless and innocent young girls. That'd be you and Barbara.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm not going to click on a link of the huffington post. Just tell me in a summary why you think women are being treated unequally.
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WE have an issue with equal pay. While there are tons of factors and it's not the 77 cents on a dollar thing, women are not being paid equally and granted the same opportunities as men. It's the way it is. To deny that is akin to denying global warming.
 
sturg33 said:
I'm not going to click on a link of the huffington post.
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That explains why you don't understand how ACA works or a plethora of other issues where you seem to have no working knowledge yet gigantic opinions.
Gatom's little brother

kinda miss him sometimes. Know what happened to him?

He got the 2012 election so wrong he couldn't bear the kindness that was to be thrown his way.
Wonder how much his HC went up ?
 
I wonder why people insist on using the graphic details when trying to make their
anti-abortion point ?
Lately there have been TV ads showing smoking victims - wonder if those grotesque ads have changed any smokers minds ?
Don't you feel just a little creepy describing lady parts like that ?
As long as the fetus is in the womb, you do understand it is for all intent and purposes, Lady Parts

C'mon Bedell. Why so graphic -- you've been doing it for years now and haven't convinced a soul at least here -- is it some kind of ... I don't know.
I recently had a knee repaclement. Would you like to know the details. They took a living joint and the accompanying ligaments etc and killed them ...

I have a video if anyone is interested
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Personally I find using the graphic details of a medical procedure for purposes of electoral gain ( often tied to deregulation ) far more barbaric than the woman and her doctor involved in a medical procedure
 
zitothebrave said:
WE have an issue with equal pay. While there are tons of factors and it's not the 77 cents on a dollar thing, women are not being paid equally and granted the same opportunities as men. It's the way it is. To deny that is akin to denying global warming.
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There's no issue with equal pay in this country.

The $0.77 number is one of the most out of context numbers I've ever seen used in a serious natioal discussion - the fact that the President is using it is both laughable and abhorrent - as it is basically a flat out lie.

First of all, the number is based on the median gross income of women vs the median gross income of men. With no other factors of experience, hours, education, what type of jobs, etc. being used in the equation. In other words, it basically treats being a kindergarten teacher the same as being an astrophysicist. So it's BS.

Additionally, women are far less likely to get degrees in math and science, which lead to higher paying jobs. In fact, men overwhelmingly dominate the majors of the highest paying jobs. And not surprisingly, women overwhelmingly dominate the majors of the least paying jobs. I can't imagine why they make less! When you account for this, the wage gap essentially disappears.

But let's look deeper, shall we?

Additionally again, women are far less likely to work more demanding jobs in construction and other similar career paths, which pay more

Additionally again, women are far more likely to change career paths mid-career (i.e. switching from operations to marketing), which makes them lose more work experience.

Additionally again, women are less likely to negotiate salaries and ask for raises - which hurts their pay (especially on their first job) which compounds each year

Additionally again, women are less likely to change companies, which is the easiest way to earn more money

Additionally again, once married, women work less than men, thus they have less work experience and don't work as many hours.

Additionally again, once becoming a mother, women work far less than men, thus they have less work experience and don't work as many hours.

Women are much more likely to work part-time jobs, while men are much more likely to work full time jobs. I'm sure you're shocked to hear that full time generally pays more.

Now - how about we argue for apples to apples, shall we?

When we compare never married women to never married men, women actually make MORE than men.

So I guess all of these greedy corporations aren't so greedy after all... Obviously - because they can save so much money by only hiring women, yet they choose to pay men 30% more money out of the graciousness of their heart? Get real.

So I'll ask again, how are women treated unequally in this country?
 
57Brave said:
That explains why you don't understand how ACA works or a plethora of other issues where you seem to have no working knowledge yet gigantic opinions.
Gatom's little brother

kinda miss him sometimes. Know what happened to him?

He got the 2012 election so wrong he couldn't bear the kindness that was to be thrown his way.
Wonder how much his HC went up ?
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I actually did click on it, and scanned it quickly to see if it discussed the wage gap. Once I noticed the whole article basically centers around it, I decided it was not worth my time. See my post above
 
zitothebrave said:
WE have an issue with equal pay. While there are tons of factors and it's not the 77 cents on a dollar thing, women are not being paid equally and granted the same opportunities as men. It's the way it is. To deny that is akin to denying global warming.
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If you think this is true, why not put your money where your mouth is and start a business? If I thought there was a clear inefficiency to be exploited, I know that's what I'd be doing.
 
57Brave said:
I wonder why people insist on using the graphic details when trying to make their
anti-abortion point ?
Lately there have been TV ads showing smoking victims - wonder if those grotesque ads have changed any smokers minds ?
Don't you feel just a little creepy describing lady parts like that ?
As long as the fetus is in the womb, you do understand it is for all intent and purposes, Lady Parts

C'mon Bedell. Why so graphic -- you've been doing it for years now and haven't convinced a soul at least here -- is it some kind of ... I don't know.
I recently had a knee repaclement. Would you like to know the details. They took a living joint and the accompanying ligaments etc and killed them ...

I have a video if anyone is interested
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Personally I find using the graphic details of a medical procedure for purposes of electoral gain ( often tied to deregulation ) far more barbaric than the woman and her doctor involved in a medical procedure
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The ultrasound has been the greatest tool in beginning to turn the tide in this whole issue. Your knee isn't a defenseless and innocent human being that recoils from the abortion's tools. I don't use euphemisms because you're trying to deny the heinous reality by them. I call that either culpable, willful ignorance or calloused evil.
 
I still can't see much difference between aborting a baby in the womb or destroying an hour outside of the womb... I don't quite see why we are stripping the woman the choice of whether or not she wants to be a mother. Certainly, that newborn baby is not viable on its own.
 
sturg33 said:
I still can't see much difference between aborting a baby in the womb or destroying an hour outside of the womb... I don't quite see why we are stripping the woman the choice of whether or not she wants to be a mother. Certainly, that newborn baby is not viable on its own.
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Yeah, I don't understand why location matters to them.

Maybe it really doesn't and they'll soon be advocating infanticide as well.
 
BedellBrave said:
Yeah, I don't understand why location matters to them.

Maybe it really doesn't and they'll soon be advocating infanticide as well.
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Why the overblown rhetoric ?

No one is advocating infanticide and you know that. People understand what abortion is and entails.

Do you believe that using shock rhetoric and graphic photos you will actually make your point?
Or, is this what the Pro-Life argument is reduced to ?

7-8-9 years ago you accused the President of infanticide. Did your language and point resonate with, anyone ?
Or, did it repulse ?

I'm curious to your answers
 
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