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Did you ever receive compensation associated with these research projects?

At that time, and this was of course when I worked there until 2009, we as staff members were compensated for every patient that we were able to enroll in a study. It creates coercive tactics.

How much were you compensated?

It depended on how much Planned Parenthood was getting per research participant. For our fetal tissue study, we got paid about $200 per baby that we sent. If I recall correctly, I think the compensation to the staff was about $20 per enrollment. If it was a minor study … one time we did a study where they were testing different kinds of pap brushes … we got about $5 for each patient.
 
There were times where doctors would use a manual aspiration technique as opposed to the vacuum aspiration because the vacuum suction that we used was so strong that it would basically just shred the parts of the baby. If we were trying to get a more intact specimen, the doctor may use a manual aspiration procedure, which doesn’t include the machine and does less damage to the actual baby.

Doctors aren’t allowed to change the way they perform an abortion to harvest tissue—how is this legal?

Planned Parenthood has done such a good job covering themselves because both of those procedures are considered acceptable standard of care. They can say, “We’re not doing the manual aspiration to get a more intact specimen; we’re doing it because this woman’s concerned about pain and this would be less painful than the vacuum aspiration procedure.”
 
At that point, what did the product of conception technician do with the different body parts?

If it was during a time that we were participating in a research study, they would pick out whatever was requested—whether it was a specific organ, eyeballs, whatever it was—they would take that out and put that in a specimen bag.

Then we would put all of the bags that were going for research in a Styrofoam container inside a freezer, and the ones that were not went into a different bag. With each specimen we had to make a copy of the consent form they signed and put it into the specimen bag.

At the end of the day, we would ship on dry ice the specimens to the company that we were contracted with. Sometimes research labs will actually come and pick up the box, but in our case we shipped it off.
 
How much did shipping typically cost?

The researchers provided the Styrofoam box and dry ice to Planned Parenthood. Literally the only cost we had was shipping the box. And that was about $20 every time we shipped. So Planned Parenthood is getting $200 per specimen, and we’re taking all the specimens, putting them in one box and shipping it off for $20. The different fetal body parts are not shipped individually.

Does Planned Parenthood have to hire an employee to sort through the body parts and put them in these containers?

It’s not like we hire someone just to separate these parts for research because after every single abortion, a product of conception technician reassembles the parts of the baby to make sure that everything was removed. If they don’t, that can be fatal for a woman. We had several instances where our product of conception technician failed the patient because they would come back in and there would be a leg still in their uterus and that causes very serious infection.

To send the body parts to a research laboratory, it’s just a matter of separating them into different bags.
 
goldfly said:
I read the whole thing

Classic definition of grasping at straws IMO
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You were curiously selective in your quotes - so I just needed to flesh them out a bit for you. :-)

You would think that. I doubt there's anything that would really change your mind on the issue. You evidently are all in.
 
Here's someone 57 that needed the "graphic language" and the videos.

"...As I’ve only realized lately, to be a man, and to declare yourself pro-choice, is to proclaim your neutrality. And, as I’ve only recently been willing to admit, even to myself, that’s another name for “wimping out.”

At least that’s how my wife sees it. She’s pro-life, and so she’s been tearing into me every time a new video is released. She’s not buying my argument that, as a man, I have to defer to women and trust them to make their own choices about what to do with their bodies. To her, that’s ridiculous—and cowardly.

“You can’t stand on the sidelines, especially now that you’ve seen these videos,” she told me recently. “That’s bull****! These are babies that are being killed. Millions of them. And you need to use your voice to protect them. That’s what a man does. He protects children—his own children, and other children. That’s what it means to be a man.”

I didn’t like the scolding, but I needed to hear it. For those of us who are pro-choice, the Planned Parenthood videos are a game changer. As to whether that means I’ll change my view, I’m not sure. I’m on the bubble. Ask me in a few weeks, after the release of more videos..."

Link
 
Just curious, but is there a way to really track down who benefits from these "commerce" in human fetal tissue or as I see it slaughtered children?
 
Do female models make more than male models? The UPS driver, 15 year vet, that delivers to my store, I've known him for 5 years states that the gals on the dock at UPS get the same pay as the guys but aren't required to lift the same freight. I could make similar arguments for guys I know who work at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. The gals get the same cash but aren't required to do the same work.

Examples are plentiful. There is no such thing as a female fighter pilot. Without gender norming they can't compete with men. Just because you use an affirmative action shoe horn to get a gal in jet doesn't make her a fighter pilot.

I own a fleet of tow trucks. I've tried a couple of female drivers, only a few have ever applied. They never make it through the training. They can't or won't do the job. There are many men who don't won't to climb around on the ground, or in ditches to recover a car. You know what lives in the ditches and on the ground in the coastal GA area? I've seen people decapitated in car wrecks driving a rollback.

Women aren't mistreated and they aren't victims. They would love to make you think that. That's why this crap that the 'crats peddle appeals to them. They are emotional creatures.

Abortion is infanticide. Always has been and always will be. If planned parenthood is such a needed service it will survive in the free market and with what it can raise from like minded folks. Goldfly how many rubbers could you buy for the poor if you didn't travel? Are you some kind of hypocrite?

This thread is generally pathetic!
 
VOLracious said:
Do female models make more than male models? ........................................................................................................................................................................
This thread is generally pathetic!
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Now that volatile + pugnacious has arrived, maybe it'll pick up.
 
sturg33 said:
Still waiting on 57
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Yeah lets attempt quantifying a stigma on a baseball board.

What's next, proof of why racism still exists .

A sprinkling of world experience would do wonders Sturg.

Do you know any of "the women crowd "

?
 
57Brave said:
Yeah lets attempt quantifying a stigma on a baseball board.

What's next, proof of why racism still exists .

A sprinkling of world experience would do wonders Sturg.

Do you know any of "the women crowd "

?
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Sweet... so you can't back your dumb meme up. Thanks
 
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