8/14/15 DBacks @ BRAVES

msstate7 said:
I wouldn't DFA swisher until at least next ST. It's not like we're fighting for a playoff spot or something.

Is it swisher's knee or his knees? If it's a knee, i wonder if we can repair it with surgery. 2 years ago he hit 22 hr's with a .341 obp. I certainly don't wanna hold him if he doesn't turn it around, but I'd at least give him till ST
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He just had both knees operated on last August.
 
Swisher is a good guy to keep on the bench during a rebuild season. I wouldn't worry about him until the 2016 deadline at the earliest.
 
A little late tonight because I was at the local minor league game, which the M-Braves were playing.
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Braves1976 said:
Great job by Viz again tonight, he's been very good since coming back up after his suspension. If he continues this he should close for us next year IMO.
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The back end of the bullpen could be very interesting next year. Viz will be back, but there is a possibility that Folty will eventually find his way to the pen. I also think Tyrell Jenkins's future may be as a 8th inning guy at the back end of the bullpen. Chris Withrow and Paco Rodriguez are other back end options. Matt Marksberry could end up being a LOOGY. Shae Simmons will be back as well. The pen could very well go from a tremendous weakness to a potential strength in 2016.
 
KB21 said:
The back end of the bullpen could be very interesting next year. Viz will be back, but there is a possibility that Folty will eventually find his way to the pen. I also think Tyrell Jenkins's future may be as a 8th inning guy at the back end of the bullpen. Chris Withrow and Paco Rodriguez are other back end options. Matt Marksberry could end up being a LOOGY. Shae Simmons will be back as well. The pen could very well go from a tremendous weakness to a potential strength in 2016.
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I actually feel better about our bullpen next year than I do about our starters.
 
msstate7 said:
I actually feel better about our bullpen next year than I do about our starters.
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A lot will depend upon Manny Banuelos's health. I figure the starting rotation will be Shelby, Julio, Matthew, Manny, and Williams right now with Folty having a chance to prove he deserves a spot.
 
rico43 said:
You have to explain this one to me.
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Vizcaino and Simmons are gonna be solid back end guys. Withrow has a career (2 years) era of 2.73. Rodriguez has a career (4 years) era of 2.53. That's 4 solid guys. Marksberry, maybe detwiler, mckirahan, and perhaps folty or banuelos can round out what could be a solid bullpen.

Starting staff...

Like miller and Teheran at the top. After that we've got a lot of question marks IMO. I do think Perez, wisler, banuelos, folty, and Jenkins have potential, but hardly locks right now
 
Every starter in the minors is a potential candidate for the major league pen. As a matter of fact, most major league relievers were starters in the minors.
 
Braves1976 said:
Hopefully tonight and his recent good games will start to bring back trade interest in him. I think it's just a matter of time till he's dealt as long as a team will take his contract. So it would be best for him to do well enough to get us back a better return than just salary relief.
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I was mainly talking about another one of thethe's love affairs with a player.
 
rico43 said:
You have to explain this one to me.
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It shouldn't be a surprise at this point since our bullpen is projected to be much better next year and our rotation weaker after trading Wood. Plus as nsacpi notes a lot of the starters in the minors are bullpen options too (and we do have some good ones to choose from). Further, I would actually have concerns about our rotation next year unless we at least add someone like a Kazmir to it.
 
msstate7 said:
Vizcaino and Simmons are gonna be solid back end guys. Withrow has a career (2 years) era of 2.73. Rodriguez has a career (4 years) era of 2.53. That's 4 solid guys. Marksberry, maybe detwiler, mckirahan, and perhaps folty or banuelos can round out what could be a solid bullpen.

Starting staff...

Like miller and Teheran at the top. After that we've got a lot of question marks IMO. I do think Perez, wisler, banuelos, folty, and Jenkins have potential, but hardly locks right now
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Isn't funny how we forget guys like Fried, Winkler, Withrow, and how they might fit into the mix. Be warned: by mid-2017, Allard might be pounding on a door as well.
 
rico43 said:
Isn't funny how we forget guys like Fried, Winkler, Withrow, and how they might fit into the mix. Be warned: by mid-2017, Allard might be pounding on a door as well.
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Yeah, I said I felt better about our bullpen than our starters next season. I think we'll have a very good starting rotation, but it might take till '17
 
msstate7 said:
Yeah, I said I felt better about our bullpen than our starters next season. I think we'll have a very good starting rotation, but it might take till '17
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Looking at what we currently have at the major league level and upper minors, I'm comfortable with Miller, Teheran and Wisler in the rotation. I think we will have to go out and get two starters from outside the system. Maybe there will be a pleasant surprise or two from the guys who have pitched in the majors, AAA and AA this year. But for them to become a reliable major league starting pitcher by 2017 would take a positive surprise (their developing into something better than their current most likely projection). And we have to cross our fingers regarding injury/regression from Miller, Teheran and Wisler.

The good news though is there is a glut of starting pitching on this year's FA market. With some patience we can get one or two bargains.
 
nsacpi said:
Looking at what we currently have at the major league level and upper minors, I'm comfortable with Miller, Teheran and Wisler in the rotation. I think we will have to go out and get two starters from outside the system. Maybe there will be a pleasant surprise or two from the guys who have pitched in the majors, AAA and AA this year. But for them to become a reliable major league starting pitcher by 2017 would take a positive surprise (their developing into something better than their current most likely projection). And we have to cross our fingers regarding injury/regression from Miller, Teheran and Wisler.

The good news though is there is a glut of starting pitching on this year's FA market. With some patience we can get one or two bargains.
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I'm curious if we keep minor.
 
msstate7 said:
I'm curious if we keep minor.
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He would make something close to the 5.6M he is making this year if offered arbitration. I would offer it to him. It is like a one year deal with an option. The price is not bad in today's market. Of course, the team has a lot more information about the prognosis for his surgically-repaired shoulder. But if it is favorable, it makes sense to keep him.
 
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