2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]

sturg33 said:
I dunno... tons of reasons. They receive a ton of subsidies and corporate welfare. They have low costs. They have a crap ton of volume. They squeeze their suppliers.

Lots of reasons. what's your point?
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Well what does that do to the rest of the market?
 
sturg33 said:
What is your point? You've totally moved the goal posts of your argument. You orginally said that Walmart raises prices on their good as they kick out competition and that is simply not true
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Except that they have

Granted what I'm talking about happened a long time ago, and I don't know if they still practice this today (I'd guess the era of internet shopping has stopped it TBH) but that was their way of putting local shops way out of business.

My point is that Walmart manipulates the market to make it impossible for most other businesses to stay in business, it's not a free market operated business.
 
Its going to get worse when they up the minimum wage to 15 an hour, no greeters and actually smaller mom an pop stores might have a chance, they get a worker or two and put out better than the Chinese made crap that Wally World sells is a win win.

We just had a Woodmans open right down the street from my work. Now I know why my wife loves that store. German Food, Irish Food, Indian Food, authentic Asian food, the sushi area looks much better than the competition and their really high prices. The other four stores in the area parking lot is like a barren wasteland now.

And the liquor section, I am in German Bier heaven. I got some Bitburger and Konisch cooling in the fridge, was able to get a Duesel Alt and some Schwarzen Bier (doppelbach equivalent). I was looking for the Heffenweizen, the good thick stuff that you can only drink one in a setting, but the section is too big. When I get more time I would look at the biers around the world part.

The prices are ridiculously slow. I got a Milo equivalent for less than a dollar, I can buy a lb of squid for less than 3 dollars, other stores it is 5+ for 12 oz. I can get quail, duck, bison, elk, cornish hen, rabbit, rattlesnake, alligator and if they don't stock it you can tell them and they will bring it in from other stores. I am looking for eel so I can make my own eel sushi rolls. A competitor is willing to shave 50% off if I buy from them instead of Woodmans.
 
The problem with th ehigher minimum wage is the ones with small staffs will be OK. But imagine that restaurant with 20-30 workers, they're gonna have to jack the prices up to cover labor.
 
zitothebrave said:
Sorry weso but you're wrong. We've never had a true communist government. USSR wasn't communist. They were a statist dictatorship. Not very far from say Nazi Germany except in rhetoric only. Communism can't really exist on a national level, and certainly not on a nation the size of the USSR's level because it's not supposed to. It's supposed to be carried out in communities, not controlled by a central government.

But I digress. It fails because of greed and corruption. When you look at the USSR you saw a very unfair system where some lived poorly and barely survived (or died of starvation) and where others lived extremely well. That's not any respectable form of communism as it doesn't create equal access. It has nothing to do with the desire to be free or any other of your attempted high sounding rhetoric.

Capitalism also great fails because there cannot be a free market when market manipulation happens all of the time. Let's look at the Walmart model, come into town with super low prices to kick every local competitor out, then slowly raise them to make bank. That's manipulation. Let's look at the gas companies. They pump it from the ground, they refine it, and own 66% of the gas stations in America. Meaning they basically make money no matter what step of the process they're involved with, and they can keep alternative fuels out of most gas stations. E-85 fuel runs in almost every car. Good luck finding a pump with e-85 in mroe rural parts of America.

Anyway we're not in a capitalist society in any stretch anyway. WE're in some franken capitalist/socialist/oligarchy type of system.
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I agree with you that the greedy on either side will eventually topple the system, but I think you're ignoring half of the equation. Communism needs its workers to be productive to succeed. You are ignoring the working force. The idea of communism is a deterrent to the human worker. The only way to ensure that workers are productive is for the state to force them to be productive. Imo, the positive characteristics of humans is what prevents the workers from providing the work they need, for example human inventors want to advance the human race. Communism rejects this human characteristic unless you work for the state. In a capitalist society these same positive human characteristics will lead workers to provide the human capital needed to make the system work. I think the most important point is that when capitalism eventually fails, the workers are the ones who will make it succeed again. Communism doesn't work that way. Once the system fails, the communist workers aren't motivated to bring it back. Capitalism by defininition gives workers the path to make the economy succeed again.
 
So new polls out, since last post here NBC/Marist for Dems

Sanders opening up the lead in NH, 41 over Hillary 32, and closing in Iowa 27 to Hillary's 38. Looks like primarily, Biden has already bit into Hillary.

Monmouth came out with a new R poll. Showing a 2 horse race in Iowa between Trump (29) and Carson (22) and in NH NBC/Marist polled, and has Trump running away with the state at 28% nearest competitor is Kasich at 12%.

Also probably not updated, but on the x vs y polls

Hillary is besting everyone, Sanders besting Trump, Bush, and losing to Rubio.

It's early and a lot will happen, but things are looking good early on for Sanders to get some delegates, who knows where he goes from there.
 
I'd fall out of my chair if Sanders somehow became Veep. For one I'd be shocked if Hillary didn't pick a Hispanic like Castro who check marks both boxes (young and Hispanic), and two just to see Sanders eviscerate whoever the GOP throws out as the #2 on the ticket.
 
SurveyUSA:

Today it's:

* Trump 45%, Clinton 40%. (There is a 20-point Gender Gap; Trump leads by 18 points among seniors.)
* Trump 44%, Sanders 40%. (Trump leads by 10 among independents and by 6 among moderates.)
* Trump 44%, Biden 42%. (Trump leads by 10 among the best educated; Biden leads by 17 among the least educated.)
* Trump 44%, Gore 41%. (Trump leads by 12 among men and by 18 among voters age 50+.)
 
"And in hypothetical general-election contests, the NBC/Marist polls found that Jeb Bush and Donald Trump both beat Clinton in Iowa:

Bush 50 percent, Clinton 39 percent
Trump 48 percent, Clinton 43 percent.

But Biden performs better:

Bush 46 percent, Biden 44 percent
Biden 49 percent, Trump 45 percent

In New Hampshire, the general-election numbers are:

Bush 48 percent, Clinton 43 percent
Clinton 46 percent, Trump 45 percent
Bush 46 percent, Biden 45 percent
Biden 50 percent, Trump 41 percent."

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