GOP debate

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Runnin said:
If the GOP candidates can't handle questions, good or bad, hard or soft, from TV journalists, they have no business running for president. Can you imagine Obama making a big stink about tough or ill toned questions. He's been handling worse treatment in journalist interviews for seven years. What a bunch of wussies.
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Oh, they handled them quite well.
 
57Brave said:
really ?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/candidates-reject-rnc-revolt.html

At a fundraiser in New York on Monday night, President Obama said the candidates "talk tough about Putin," but "it turns out they can’t handle a bunch of CNBC moderators." He added, "If you can’t handle those guys, I don’t think the Chinese and the Russians are going to be too worried about you.
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blah, blah, blah

What does anyone expect coming from partisans on the other side - especially from those defending their guys?
 
From 2008. Link

Democratic presidential rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama are complaining about which candidate is the biggest complainer.

The issue is their treatment in debates. Obama is objecting to the questions posed this week in one moderated by ABC News. Many of the toughest questions were targeted at Obama, the front-runner for the nomination, and he's said too much time was spent on political divisions instead of issues that matter to Americans.

Clinton said Friday that if Obama thinks the debate was tough, it pales in comparison to the pressures a president faces.

"I'm with Harry Truman on this - if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen," she told voters while campaigning in Pennsylvania. "Just speaking for myself, I am very comfortable in the kitchen."

But it wasn't so long ago that Clinton was the front-runner and complaining about her treatment in debates. After a debate last fall, her campaign compiled clips of her being targeted, and called it the "Politics of Pile On." In late February, Clinton complained that she always got asked the first question.

"Her blatant hypocrisy here is stunning," responded Obama spokesman Bill Burton.

The most recent debate Wednesday night was the most watched of this election cycle and has generated some negative reviews for ABC. Obama supporters have made some of the loudest objections, and the Obama campaign sent out a fundraising appeal off the debate titled "Gotcha."

Obama said Thursday that the moderators "like stirring up controversy and they like playing gotcha games, getting us to attack each other."

"Senator Clinton looked in her element," Obama added. "She was taking every opportunity to get a dig in there. That's her right to kind of twist the knife a little bit ... that's the lesson she learned when Republicans did it to her in the 1990s."

Clinton said Friday that getting tough questions is part of what happens in a debate and campaign. "Having been in the White House for eight years and seeing what happens in terms of the pressures and the stresses on a president, that was nothing," she said.

"We were both asked some pretty tough questions and that's part of what happens in a debate and in a campaign, and I know he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked," Clinton also said in an interview with Philadelphia television station FOX 29, although Obama did not complain about the difficulty of the questions, just the substance.

"Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House," she said, according to a transcript of her interview provided by her campaign.

Former President Bill Clinton also weighed in on the controversy, saying that "they have been beating up on us for 15 months."

"I didn't hear her whining when he said she was untruthful in Iowa or called her the senator from Punjab," Mr. Clinton said in St. Mary's, Pa. on Thursday. "And you know they said some pretty rough things about me too. But you know this is contact sport if you don't want to play keep your uniform off. But the truth is… this has been basically a positive campaign on the issues and on the records and on the experience. "

Both Clinton and Obama were campaigning in Pennsylvania Friday, which holds its primary Tuesday - their first contest in seven weeks. Obama leads Clinton in overall delegates, 1,638-1,496, but neither is close to achieving the 2,025 needed to win the nomination.

One of Clinton's supporters, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, said Friday that Clinton needs a big win in Pennsylvania if she hopes to overtake Obama. A loss in the Keystone state would be "pretty much a door closer," Corzine said.

Another Clinton supporter encouraged her to challenge Obama all the way to the convention.

"I think I also speak for more than 1,500 delegates who want you to go to the convention and to fight for your right to represent our country as president of the United States," Luis Cortez said as he introduced Clinton to speak at Esperanza High School, the Philadelphia charter academy that he heads.
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I went ahead and bolded a bunch of stuff for you... but go ahead and read it all for fun
 
^^^ Good find. To act like complaining and criticizing the moderators is something new and only the purview of a bunch of whiny Rs is just partisan silliness. Of course the candidates do this. It's a part of the whole frickin process every go around. You'd think that this is the first election cycle some folks had ever witnessed. Good grief. It's part of the game that's played to rally support. What matters isn't what the other party's denizens think. What matters is how it plays to potential voters. And believe you me it plays extremely well. Just listen to what Frank Luntz said.

And btw, what's also a part of the dance is for those denizens to call the other party's candidates or even the candidates of their party they don't like whiners...
 
Did I miss the part where HRC and BHO threatened to pull out of scheduled debates unless they could write the questions ?
 
I read the link and re read it. Thought perhaps you would have bolded that part.
After not finding that -- I looked for the part where they complained about the Green Room accommodations --
or belittled one another over their poll numbers

musta missed that too.

I get they are competing with one another and I get that in every debate going back to Nixon-Kennedy the moderator is the third leg and afterwards nothing more than a punching bag.
But, Nixon-Kennedy people didn't meet in private to preselect the questions

Or, McCain-Bush for that matter.

This is uncharted territory. And, adorable
Bless their hearts
 
In all honesty, for every person I have ever met or interacted with in my entire life, you are the most biased person I've ever come across...

And I've participated in many political clubs and events... so that is saying something
 
"If you can't find common ground that doesn't mean you are partisan. It just means you believe in two different things"

I talk bout the politics and policy.
You talk about me.

We disagree on policy
I think that is wonderful -- and frankly why I come here.

To my mind if I have to revert to the personal, my ideas aren't worth their salt.

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You're thoughts ?
 
57Brave said:
"If you can't find common ground that doesn't mean you are partisan. It just means you believe in two different things"

I talk bout the politics and policy.
You talk about me.

We disagree on policy
I think that is wonderful -- and frankly why I come here.

To my mind if I have to revert to the personal, my ideas aren't worth their salt.

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You're thoughts ?
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You're not talking about policy at all... You're whining about Republicans whining... but excuse Democrats for doing the same thing... It just gets so old with you.

There are a few dems on this board that are very much worth discussing things with. I don't consider you one of them
 
No, I am talking about politics.
I am not whining -- I am mocking.

I am mocking the politicians that champion the policies you seem to favor. They are not very good at their jobs
and it will likely cost them another national election.
Because my guess is they are berift of ideas that have broad appeal - and looking for a villain they choose the media.
For you know, exposing the fact that when not bereft of ideas they are hopelessly pining for a "when America was Great"

Meaning the policies you favor will not see the light of day.

You see, I am talking policy.

Climate change
Civil Rights
Gun Control
Getting involved in more foreign wars for no reason

etc
etc
etc

oh yeah, making Health Care available to all.
Cradle to Grave
 
57Brave said:
No, I am talking about politics.
I am not whining -- I am mocking.

I am mocking the politicians that champion the policies you seem to favor. They are not very good at their jobs
and it will likely cost them another national election.

Meaning the policies you favor will not see the light of day.

You see, I am talking policy.

Climate change
Civil Rights
Gun Control
Getting involved in more foreign wars for no reason

etc
etc
etc
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You don't seem to have a grasp on what I favor...

I don't plan to vote for any of these folks on stage
 
Who will you vote for then ?

"seem to favor"
correct me --- what I am not grasping ?

abortion - check
taxes - check
ACA - check
Environmental regulation vs Environmental protection --- check
Civil Rights -- check
Gun Control --- check
Governmental involvement in day to day --- check

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Foreign Policy and some aspects of economics
you differ
 
57Brave said:
Who will you vote for then ?

"seem to favor"
correct me --- what I am not grasping ?

abortion - check - Anyone who makes a voting decision based on this is a moron... Neither party is actually interested in changing it
taxes - check I support 0% income taxes... none of the Republicans do
ACA - check I support individual freedom... not sure the Republicans do - but we probably agree that ACA is bad
Environmental regulation vs Environmental protection --- check This seems awfully vague
Civil Rights -- check Come again? I am basically polar opposite to most Rs on civil liberties, and most Ds as well. I actually support individual liberty...
Gun Control --- check Gun control... you mean like your background checks or waiting periods? OK
Governmental involvement in day to day --- check Come again?

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Foreign Policy Wildly differ and some aspects of economics Wildly differ
you differ
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^

At the moment I don't think I'm voting for anyone... we'll see who the other parties nominate
 
GOP Debate is hilarious.

Rubio and Rand going on it.

Cruzbot, Rubiobot, and Fioribot are continuing to be boring.

Jeb is Jeb which is non interesting.

Trump vs. Kasich continues.

Carson continues awkwardness.

Kasich still looks like the only sane, most pragmatic, and most logical on that stage.
 
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