Miller market 'hot'

NYCBrave said:
And this is where I have an issue. We've been in a position of power in all of the trades we've made, meaning we could have gone around the league and sought out the best offer, but it seems like we've gotten a questionable return in just about every trade. Like you said, the front office went for quantity over quality since our farm team was so barren, hoping it would allow us to compete sooner, and I think that was a big mistake.
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Again, im just not sure teams are gonna trade top notch prospects for one year rentals (Heyward/JUpton)

Simmons deal i would have liked a top notch bat, Newcomb seems good though.

Biggest flaws is Olivera/Markakis, team doesnt look to contend until 2018 at the earliest, that just doesnt make sense.
 
Olney: Diamondbacks have pushed on Shelby Miller in talks with Braves; ATL seemingly focused on OFers, especially Pollock, possible expanded deal.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
Olney: Diamondbacks have pushed on Shelby Miller in talks with Braves; ATL seemingly focused on OFers, especially Pollock, possible expanded deal.
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Shelby would be a good pick up for them, and there is some familiarity with LaRussa....would be interesting if they give up Pollock in a deal
 
Without Pollock a deal real doesen't work. They have nobody else who would serve as a centerpiece. It also would be a massive overpay by them.
 
The Diamondbacks could always get somebody like Fowler if they trade Pollock for Shelby. Shelby and Fowler would be alot more important to them than Pollock. Pollock would be a huge pickup and would need to be extended pretty soon.
 
Pollock is certainly a good player, but again, he would be an acquisition that doesn't fit with the other moves. Pollock is a "win now" player, so why trade Simmons if the goal was to win now?

I don't have much of a problem with any individual move they have made. It's the combination of the moves that don't seem to be following a plan.
 
Enscheff said:
Pollock is certainly a good player, but again, he would be an acquisition that doesn't fit with the other moves. Pollock is a "win now" player, so why trade Simmons if the goal was to win now?

I don't have much of a problem with any individual move they have made. It's the combination of the moves that don't seem to be following a plan.
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Exactly. I LOVE Pollock but that trade doesn't necessarily make us better because it just creates a problem in the rotation. If he had 5 years of control then 100% do it but same contractual control that Shelby has doesn't make a ton of sense.

Without Pollock I still think it's possible to build a solid package from the Dbacks. Dansby Swanson, Blair, Bradley, Brito, Lamb, Drury
 
Olney: Just speculation: If Arizona was willing to talk about trading Pollock, it would be a fit for Miller/ATL, also NYM and 1 of their starters.
 
Unless we added someone like Sims/Jenkins and others, im not sure how we pry away Pollock.
 
Pollock has alot of value but so does Shelby and they both have 3 controllable years left. It shouldn't take Sims and another piece at all to make the trade. If anything its an even swap. We could expand the deal and offer Miller, Mallex, Viz, and Jace for Pollock and something else. They get a replacement Cf that's pretty close to ready and the possible closer they want. And they won't add much payroll.
 
Hudson2 said:
Pollock has alot of value but so does Shelby and they both have 3 controllable years left. It shouldn't take Sims and another piece at all to make the trade. If anything its an even swap. We could expand the deal and offer Miller, Mallex, Viz, and Jace for Pollock and something else. They get a replacement Cf that's pretty close to ready and the possible closer they want. And they won't add much payroll.
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It's not an even deal. Pollock is more valuable than Miller.
 
Hudson2 said:
Pollock has alot of value but so does Shelby and they both have 3 controllable years left. It shouldn't take Sims and another piece at all to make the trade. If anything its an even swap. We could expand the deal and offer Miller, Mallex, Viz, and Jace for Pollock and something else. They get a replacement Cf that's pretty close to ready and the possible closer they want. And they won't add much payroll.
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Pollock is more valuable than Shelby.

We'd have to add a Sims or Jenkins.
 
Hudson2 said:
Pollock was mediocre in 2014 and hit .315 with 20 homers last year and is going on 29. Quit acting like he is more valuable bc he's not elite.
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Players get better with age with more time.

Dont see us getting Pollock but it will cost alot more than Shelby.

Shelby is hardly an ace.
 
Shelby is not an ace and Pollock isn't elite. And players get better with age so Shelby can turn into an ace right?
 
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