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BoneThrower said:
3-way trade between the White Sox, Reds and Dodgers just happened. Reds sending Todd Frazier to CWS, Montas, Micah Johnson and Trayce Thompson go to Dodgers and Peraza plus other prospects are headed to the Reds.
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the Dodgers are getting a hard thrower in Montas.. I think he is going to go to the pen though.. and basically getting Micah for Peraza.. Trayce is MEH IMO..

the Reds get a starting 2B, near ready power OF, and close to ready 2b/3B/Of..

soxs get one year rental????
 
Yikes, this looks really questionable for the Reds. Love it for CHW, like it for LAD, and have no idea what CIN is thinking. That is a super light return for two years of Frazier at ~$20m.
 
dak said:
Yikes, this looks really questionable for the Reds. Love it for CHW, like it for LAD, and have no idea what CIN is thinking. That is a super light return for two years of Frazier at ~$20m.
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thanks for the correction.. thought Frazier was FA eligible next year..
 
The underrating of Peraza continues. He was phenomenal as a 20 year old in High A and Double A and had a decent season as a 21 year old in AAA. He's been quite young for his level. He probably should repeat at AAA this year and I think he would have a very good season there. I think he will have a solid career as a ML regular. And he is still young enough to have significant upside (potential All-Star).
 
Jose Peraza is the epitome of the player whose perceived value (prospect ranking) hasn't quite caught up to what the industry really values him at.
 
sturg33 said:
Well Frazier is a lot better, and a much better asset to have - even if we just traded him
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I agree. I'm not arguing the Braves overpaid for Olivera. They did. But are we sure what Frazier's value really is? I mean this return for him is pretty meh and you have to assume if much better offers were coming through then the Reds would have taken it.

I would rather have Olivera than Peraza.
 
chop2chip said:
Jose Peraza is the epitome of the player whose perceived value (prospect ranking) hasn't quite caught up to what the industry really values him at.
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that is so true.. Both the Braves and Dodgers valued him as nothing more than a utility player.. The Dodgers traded for another 2B in the deal, if that tells you anything.
That is one concern of mine with Mallex.. he has less power than even Jose.. and his defense is not polished with a weak arm. He has 1.5 tools.. hitting (.5) and speed.. I think Mallex could be a great utility out fielder/pinch runner type guy.. That is why I would like more OF in trades..
 
dak said:
And he's the best player going to CIN in this deal.

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My comeback was going to be, "well then why did the Dodgers trade for him?"

Then I remember they didn't give up much.
 
Bowden: #Dodgers have to have a subsequent deal they’re working on…..or there has to be more moving parts here
 
sturg33 said:
Peraza good enough to land Todd Frazier and we used him for Olivera...
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Plus Alex Wood. Such a terrible terrible trade. I think this is a terrible deal for the Reds and don't view Peraza as a star but this again shows how bad the Olivera deal was
 
gilesfan said:
My comeback was going to be, "well then why did the Dodgers trade for him?"

Then I remember they didn't give up much.
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It certainly doesn't justify the Braves end of the Olivera trade, but it somewhat validates why the Braves thought he and Wood were expendable.
 
cajunrevenge said:
If Peraza can play at least average SS defense he is going to have a long career as a starter.
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I think Peraza's upside is almost all based on this. If he's a 2B or a CF, he loses a ton of value. Not saying he's "just a guy" if he can't play SS, but third organization in a year usually means that he's either highly sought after or losing some of his sheen. It looks as though his offensive value is almost totally BA driven.
 
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