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57Brave
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I sympathize with the Hammonds. To a point.
On the other hand, I hear a lot of talk about inner city people that they should move if the situations prove difficult. Or if someone lives in a bad neighborhood they should simply move.
Well the same applies to the Hammonds and the Bundys. Or me for that matter. If the situation is bad either change it peacefully or find another line of work.
Or to your way of thinking does that only apply to people of color ?
The Bundy Family symbolize everything that is wrong with Right Wing anti-government movement.
Just like armed black groups of the early 70's symbolized everything that was wrong with the Black Pride movement
Or the Weathermen symbolized everything wrong with the anit war movement of the same period
......
But for Chists Sake, the building is a Bird Sanctuary Welcome center in the middle of nowhere that was closed for the holidays. C'mon man
Even you have to admit that is kinda lame
On the other hand, I hear a lot of talk about inner city people that they should move if the situations prove difficult. Or if someone lives in a bad neighborhood they should simply move.
Well the same applies to the Hammonds and the Bundys. Or me for that matter. If the situation is bad either change it peacefully or find another line of work.
Or to your way of thinking does that only apply to people of color ?
The Bundy Family symbolize everything that is wrong with Right Wing anti-government movement.
Just like armed black groups of the early 70's symbolized everything that was wrong with the Black Pride movement
Or the Weathermen symbolized everything wrong with the anit war movement of the same period
......
But for Chists Sake, the building is a Bird Sanctuary Welcome center in the middle of nowhere that was closed for the holidays. C'mon man
Even you have to admit that is kinda lame
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
It's beyond lame. "Look at us! We own guns!"
Oklahomahawk
Boras' Client
Have any of the laws, or rules, or practices, or anything else really, that Clive's boy and his friends are pissed off about, changed since Obama became president? I am not up on what all this is about so they may really have a point (or may not) I'm really just asking for some facts here. After we establish a baseline of some actual truths I may (or may not) comment more.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I honestly don't know. There's been an on-going war in the West between ranchers and environmental types over the past 100 years and this is an outgrowth of that. I suppose that any time the BLM changes its mind on a land-use issue, it becomes, by extension to these folks, a direct order from the President (in this case Obama). The other side reacts as goofily, just not with a display of firearms.
I'm commenting more about the parading around with guns more than anything else. It just seems stupid.
Everytime I see BLM
I get BlackLivesMatter and Bureau of Land Management mixed up.
I get BlackLivesMatter and Bureau of Land Management mixed up.
THe issue to me is the gov't is going after their land because they want the oil/natural resources and aren't properly compensating the farmers. It's basically the gov't saying we want that land because we can make a **** ton of money on it so we are going to just take it.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
As I understand it, it is land the ranchers are leasing and the BLM is terminating the leases.
http://www.infowars.com/hammonds-targeted-because-government-wants-to-steal-their-land/
Also, many of the leases were forced onto these ranchers so they could continue to farm.
And an even worse look for the government is allowing a judge to return those two guys to jail for an additional 5 years.
And while, I don't agree with the "armed takeover," just a note that these buildings were vacant and no property or persons have been injured.
57Brave
Well-known member
armed ?
Here is a longer version:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com...uge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/
mossy
<B>Hysterical Girlfriend<BR>That Storms Out and</B
Or burned or looted.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
There have been shootings at occupy wall street events. So yeah at least some of them were armed. This protest will likely wind up being less deadly than the occupy wall st protest. And less poopy.
Oklahomahawk
Boras' Client
You say that like it's a good thing.
sturg33
I
Don't forget the Ferguson or Baltimore "protests"
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
sturg33
I
What makes this terrorism? And when is something like this OK? For example, was the revolution OK or was it domestic terrorism?
Not picking a fight - genuinely asking where we draw the line
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
The revolution was terrorism for sure.
And the fact that the nearby town isn't having school because they're scared of these people clearly makes them terrorists. They've got people in a watch tower, they've got people standing guard. If they had a tie to ISIS people would be ****ting themselves.