2016 Presidential Primaries [ SUPER TUESDAY | 3-1-'16]

sturg33 said:
Sanders has been up in the polls since at least August from what I see on RCP (that's as far as it goes back to)... it's not like this was some huge surprise.

He definitely won by more than people may have thought. But I think that's from Iowa spillover... He'll get trounced in SC and then we'll see.
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He has been up a long time in NH. It was Iowa that was the stunner and the majority in NH that is stunning. He'll take home like 2/3 of their delegates or something liek that.
 
sturg33 said:
Not comparing the candidates... just saying.. all the "momentum" after NH, and then ran into a buzz saw in the south
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3rd place in Iowa, was Gov of Vermont and didn't win NH after his "scream" speech in Iowa either

Bernie has already won as many as states as Dean

Dean was 0 for 2 and Bernie is 1-0-1 thus far

but i know he will lose in the ****hole of SC most likely. we will see past that though
 
goldfly said:
3rd place in Iowa, was Gov of Vermont and didn't win NH after his "scream" speech in Iowa either

Bernie has already won as many as states as Dean

Dean was 0 for 2 and Bernie is 1-0-1 thus far

but i know he will lost in the ****hole of SC most likely. we will see past that though
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As long as he keeps lying to people about economics and promising to steal from future generations, he may have a chance!
 
South Carolina is 17 days away from now.

Bernie has plenty of time to catchup.

Bill helped deliver a second term to Obama, but this is a different animal.

Interesting to see how much attack-dog Bill goes into.
 
On the predict it markets, Clinton is seen as a 71% chance of winning nomination... that is actually up 2 points after tonight's results.
 
goldfly said:
haha®

sure thing
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I'll wait for you or ziti to respond to post 2206.

I'll wait to hear how we know that Bernie understands WHY the new money flows to the top, and what his plans are to stop that.

I'll wait to hear how "taxing speculation" could ever pay for free tuition for the entire country

I'll wait to hear how he pays for "healthcare" for all without taxing the **** out of people, and borrowing at levels never seen before

He can take every dime of the 1% (which he is a part of, by the way), and it won't make a dent in his bull****.
 
So basically Hillary is up as much in SC as Bernie was up in NH for a while.

I don't think anybody expects Bernie to win SC or NV. His goal is the same as Team Hillary's was for NH. Shrink the gap. Shrink the gap, you get momentum.

Hillary's momentum is trending backwards. Was up 40% in Iowa, wins by .2% (and as Beds said, likely lost to Sanders). If Sanders continues the momentum, he will be in good position for Super Tuesday. Hillary's team is already shaking things up. They realize they have a problem and are trying to fix it for the general.
 
The Don said:
So basically Hillary is up as much in SC as Bernie was up in NH for a while.

I don't think anybody expects Bernie to win SC or NV. His goal is the same as Team Hillary's was for NH. Shrink the gap. Shrink the gap, you get momentum.

Hillary's momentum is trending backwards. Was up 40% in Iowa, wins by .2% (and as Beds said, likely lost to Sanders). If Sanders continues the momentum, he will be in good position for Super Tuesday. Hillary's team is already shaking things up. They realize they have a problem and are trying to fix it for the general.
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Sanders should forget about SC and go after Nevada and Michigan... I could see him possibly winning Michigan.
 
sturg33 said:
Sanders should forget about SC and go after Nevada and Michigan... I could see him possibly winning Michigan.
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Nevada is a caucus state, which he probably will do as good as he did in Iowa.

All the blue-collar middle class towns Hillary won in 2008 vs. Obama in New Hampshire, were all taken by Bernie and with interest.

When it comes down to the Appalachia states and manufacturing areas, it's very likely Bernie cleans up there. He's already been supported by many Unions out there already.
 
The Don said:
Nevada is a caucus state, which he probably will do as good as he did in Iowa.

All the blue-collar middle class towns Hillary won in 2008 vs. Obama in New Hampshire, were all taken by Bernie and with interest.

When it comes down to the Appalachia states and manufacturing areas, it's very likely Bernie cleans up there. He's already been supported by many Unions out there already.
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We'll see. You may be right, who knows. The left has gone off the deep end so anything is possible.

I think Sanders is the one who guarantees the Republicans a victory. MAYBE he beats trump, but the rest of them win easily.

I know, i know... that's not what the polls say. But Sanders hasn't faced much scrutiny from Hilary regarding his economic policies (she's actually had to embrace some of it)... he will get eaten alive when facing the GOP bc his ideas are so ridiculous they will never pass general electorate once fully exposed. Between his "give everything away by stealing from others" policies, and emergence of ISIS, he'll get eaten alive
 
everyone keeps trying to put Bernies ideas into the model we have today

there is a reason the word "revolution" is being used

what you are trying to do is put a square peg in a round hole
 
New Hampshire winners and losers:

Winners:
Donald Trump (Holding my nose while declaring him a winner): Not surprising to see him win, but it was a rout. Perhaps over-performed the polls. If some weren't taking him seriously before, they better now.
Bernie Sanders: Another rout. Just a butt kicking.
John Kasich: A good second pace showing. Should get more media attention heading to South Carolina.

Losers:
Hillary Clinton: No explanation needed.
Marco Rubio: Won't be taking any vacations to New Hampshire anytime soon. Had a rough time there.
Chris Christie: While he put a hurt on Rubio, it did not help him much in any way in New Hampshire and campaign could be over by this time tomorrow.
Carly Fiorna and Ben Carson: It's over. Time to leave gracefully.
Gilmore's Campaign Manager: Seriously?
 
chop2chip said:
Question for you political-philes...

If Bloomberg were to enter the race, would he have no chance?
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No chance.

He'd be considered too liberal for Republicans being the Mayor of New York City, and too "rich" for Democrats.

And before anyone points out Hillary and Bill's wealth, it's not the same as Bloomberg being an (R) and playing the independent game. Billary have been a (D) brand for a long time.

Also, SuperPACS and special interest like the NRA have already run anti-gun control ads with Pelosi, Obama, and Bloomberg as the poster children for taking guns away.
 
So 92% in and Kasich is right around 16%, not gonna move much more, but getting 3 delegates would be great for him. Who knows where he'll go.

Bernie still pacing 60% which is great.
 
chop2chip said:
Question for you political-philes...

If Bloomberg were to enter the race, would he have no chance?
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repubs and "repubs" should root and vote for Bernie

cause he(Bloomberg) could maybe pull a Perot but against the left if he jumped in

and he will only jump in if Hillary doesn't get the nod or looks like she is REALLY weak for the dem vote

i repeat, maybe ftr
 
Krgrecw said:
Bernies going to get slaughtered in SC.
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And it will hurt. If he splits Nevada he will just need some strong showings on the first to be in it still.

The odds are greatly against him as Clinton already has an insane number of super delegates. But who knows what can happen.
 
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