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57Brave
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Donald Trump: I think Islam hates us. There’s something, there’s something there that’s a tremendous hatred there. There’s a tremendous hatred—we have to get to the bottom of it. There is an unbelievable hatred of us.
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Hate, tremendous, tremendous hatred, unbelievable hatred. Well, that explains it. Don’t you now feel like you understand centuries of religious, political, and cultural history leading to this moment in which it’s as simple as “Islam hates us” and we know just who the “us” is and are in no doubt that “we” have never born any hatred toward Islam but are just mysteriously being hated?
The outcome of this hatred, of course, is that “we can't allow people coming into this country who have this hatred of the United States.” Simple as that! It’s not hatred on our parts or a challenge to the Constitution—it just is.
Your Republican presidential frontrunner, ladies and gentlemen.
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Hearken back to 2008 and the rallies where the topic was the dog whistle of Obama's middle name .
A vote for McCain/Palin was an endorsement of that school of thought.
Newtons 3rd Law
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Hate, tremendous, tremendous hatred, unbelievable hatred. Well, that explains it. Don’t you now feel like you understand centuries of religious, political, and cultural history leading to this moment in which it’s as simple as “Islam hates us” and we know just who the “us” is and are in no doubt that “we” have never born any hatred toward Islam but are just mysteriously being hated?
The outcome of this hatred, of course, is that “we can't allow people coming into this country who have this hatred of the United States.” Simple as that! It’s not hatred on our parts or a challenge to the Constitution—it just is.
Your Republican presidential frontrunner, ladies and gentlemen.
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Hearken back to 2008 and the rallies where the topic was the dog whistle of Obama's middle name .
A vote for McCain/Palin was an endorsement of that school of thought.
Newtons 3rd Law
57Brave
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CINCINNATI (The Borowitz Report)—Republican front-runner Donald Trump was crying foul on Monday after Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders allegedly dispatched an army of vegan thugs to attack a rally of peace-loving Nazis in Cincinnati.
According to Trump, he had begun to address a group of “orderly and civil Nazis” at a downtown arena when his audience was suddenly set upon by an unruly mob of angry vegans, many menacingly clad in Birkenstocks and sustainable garments.
The Sanders supporters, singing an alarmingly militant version of Simon & Garfunkel’s “America,” marched into the arena and began “intimidating and threatening” the Nazis, Trump said.
“Make no mistake about who is starting the violence at these rallies,” Trump said. “It’s the vegans.”
Carol Foyler, a Nazi from suburban Cincinnati, said that she feared for her life when one of the vegans “ripped a Trump sign” from her hands and “tried to recycle it.”
Harland Dorrinson, a Kentucky Nazi who drove to Ohio to hear Trump speak, said he would never have attended the rally if he had known “there would be troublemaking vegans there.”
“One of them tried to swing an NPR tote bag at my head,” the terrified Nazi said.
According to Trump, he had begun to address a group of “orderly and civil Nazis” at a downtown arena when his audience was suddenly set upon by an unruly mob of angry vegans, many menacingly clad in Birkenstocks and sustainable garments.
The Sanders supporters, singing an alarmingly militant version of Simon & Garfunkel’s “America,” marched into the arena and began “intimidating and threatening” the Nazis, Trump said.
“Make no mistake about who is starting the violence at these rallies,” Trump said. “It’s the vegans.”
Carol Foyler, a Nazi from suburban Cincinnati, said that she feared for her life when one of the vegans “ripped a Trump sign” from her hands and “tried to recycle it.”
Harland Dorrinson, a Kentucky Nazi who drove to Ohio to hear Trump speak, said he would never have attended the rally if he had known “there would be troublemaking vegans there.”
“One of them tried to swing an NPR tote bag at my head,” the terrified Nazi said.
Runnin
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Trump needs the vote of 7 out of 10 white guys, says Bill James.
“I don't think that Trump can win, frankly," wrote Bill James on Feb. 23, before adding dismissively, “because I don't think there are enough morons to elect him." James, a revered baseball statistician and consultant whose work has transformed the business of sports, cited some back-of-the-napkin math to support his theory. Not to argue with the godfather of Moneyball, but in Donald Trump’s case, the problem may be much clearer: The problem is that there aren’t enough white men.
“I don't think that Trump can win, frankly," wrote Bill James on Feb. 23, before adding dismissively, “because I don't think there are enough morons to elect him." James, a revered baseball statistician and consultant whose work has transformed the business of sports, cited some back-of-the-napkin math to support his theory. Not to argue with the godfather of Moneyball, but in Donald Trump’s case, the problem may be much clearer: The problem is that there aren’t enough white men.
striker42
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This is actually tough. I can't decide whether Nazis or Vegans are worse.
57Brave
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Trump tells @costareports hell stop immigrants from sending money to Mexico - until they pay for the border wall https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...196314-fa7c-11e5-80e4-c381214de1a3_story.html
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Trump tells @costareports hell stop immigrants from sending money to Mexico - until they pay for the border wall https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...196314-fa7c-11e5-80e4-c381214de1a3_story.html
57Brave
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Guessing this is as good a place to put this as any.
Trump 90 min interview with WaPo produced this explanation:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-debt-elimination-plan-simply-bonkers?cid=sm_fb_maddow
When new deficits are added to old deficits, they cumulatively become “the national debt.” In the Bush/Cheney era, the debt roughly doubled, in the Obama era, it’s roughly doubled again, reaching about $19 trillion. (Funny story: when Bill Clinton left office, the deficit didn’t exist, and the country was actually running a big surplus, taking in more than we were spending. The United States was on track to pay off the entirety of the national debt by 2010. Bush/Cheney, however, preferred tax cuts and wars, none of which were paid for.)
Trump 90 min interview with WaPo produced this explanation:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-debt-elimination-plan-simply-bonkers?cid=sm_fb_maddow
When new deficits are added to old deficits, they cumulatively become “the national debt.” In the Bush/Cheney era, the debt roughly doubled, in the Obama era, it’s roughly doubled again, reaching about $19 trillion. (Funny story: when Bill Clinton left office, the deficit didn’t exist, and the country was actually running a big surplus, taking in more than we were spending. The United States was on track to pay off the entirety of the national debt by 2010. Bush/Cheney, however, preferred tax cuts and wars, none of which were paid for.)
sturg33
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Let's take this one at a time.
Yep... Bush was a sham
Wording is careful here... but the basis is much higher under Obama - so his "doubling" was quite a bit more severe than Bush... for example, Obama added about twice as much to the debt as Bush did. Obama is a joke
This is false. Clinton added money to the national debt in every single year he was President
Again - false. The dems have been bragging about their "surplus" for a long time. Yet it is nothing but a budget surplus, not an actual surplus. The federal government spent more money than they took in every single year of Clinton's presidency. In fact, the last time we had a true surplus was 1957.
Why is a budget surplus not a real surplus? Simple. I could pass a $15 trillion dollar budget this year, and only spend $5T that year. You would count that as a $10T surplus. But the reality is that we likely only bring in $3.3T, and thus spent $1.7T more money than we add. And the liberals and Bernie Sanders would spin it as financial brilliance. Math is hard for you folks
The national debt in 1999 was $5.656T. The national debt in 2000 was $5.674T, or almost $20B higher.
LOL... Is that right? So we hadn't run a fiscal surplus since 1957, and somehow we were going to pay off the national debt in 10 years? That's some Bernie Sanders math/imagination right there
How do you "pay for" a tax cut? That would imply the money is owned by the government from the start.
Yep... Bush was a sham
Wording is careful here... but the basis is much higher under Obama - so his "doubling" was quite a bit more severe than Bush... for example, Obama added about twice as much to the debt as Bush did. Obama is a joke
This is false. Clinton added money to the national debt in every single year he was President
Again - false. The dems have been bragging about their "surplus" for a long time. Yet it is nothing but a budget surplus, not an actual surplus. The federal government spent more money than they took in every single year of Clinton's presidency. In fact, the last time we had a true surplus was 1957.
Why is a budget surplus not a real surplus? Simple. I could pass a $15 trillion dollar budget this year, and only spend $5T that year. You would count that as a $10T surplus. But the reality is that we likely only bring in $3.3T, and thus spent $1.7T more money than we add. And the liberals and Bernie Sanders would spin it as financial brilliance. Math is hard for you folks
The national debt in 1999 was $5.656T. The national debt in 2000 was $5.674T, or almost $20B higher.
LOL... Is that right? So we hadn't run a fiscal surplus since 1957, and somehow we were going to pay off the national debt in 10 years? That's some Bernie Sanders math/imagination right there
How do you "pay for" a tax cut? That would imply the money is owned by the government from the start.
sturg33
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LOL... I commented on the point you thought was worth posting here.
Feel free to rebuke anything I said.
please
edit - I just read the whole article. There was nothing new or exciting in it at all. Of course Trump has no chance in hell of eliminating the debt in 8 years. This isn't something news worthy... just another one of his grandiose statements we've all (or at least halfway intelligent people) come to ignore
sturg33
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I love this gem
Rachel is very careful to pick the most recent fiscal year... where she pulls a massive deficit and describes it as small. Then, she implies that Obama's done a great job with the debt compared to Bush, despite the fact that Obama's added about $5 trillion MORE to the debt than Bush.
I love this Bernie math... Maybe I can get a better bonus if I convince my bosses that I had a better year by making up ridiculous leaps of logic. Problem is my bosses aren't dumb enough to fall for it like the Bernie clan
Rachel is very careful to pick the most recent fiscal year... where she pulls a massive deficit and describes it as small. Then, she implies that Obama's done a great job with the debt compared to Bush, despite the fact that Obama's added about $5 trillion MORE to the debt than Bush.
I love this Bernie math... Maybe I can get a better bonus if I convince my bosses that I had a better year by making up ridiculous leaps of logic. Problem is my bosses aren't dumb enough to fall for it like the Bernie clan
striker42
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A lot contributed to the Clinton surplus including increased revenue from the dotcom boom coupled with a lack of spending increases due to gridlock.
And you hit on something that many, many conservatives are unhappy with when you pointed out how much the debt increased under Bush. I classify myself as a fiscal conservative. I don't like tax cuts unless they are prudent. Make sure you can pay your bills before you quit your job. Many Republicans suffer from the same issue that Democrats suffer from, that's spending money they don't have. Democrats spend through appropriations, Republicans through the tax code. The end result in the same. Of course it's at its most dangerous when you have Democrats insisting on spending increases and Republicans insisting on tax cuts. That's what we have right now.
Bush also instituted Medicare Part D, a massive increase in entitlement spending. People like to point to the wars as big expenditures but they forget Medicare Part D. It's going to cost us $88 billion this year alone.