4/18 MONDAY MINORS THREAD ... Folty, Soroka in spotlight

The run Ellis gave up came about due to an error and was unearned last I checked, I wonder why they changed it to earned? Either way, good line again for Ellis tonight. I'll try to catch it on replay when the post the archive of the game later.
 
Braves1976 said:
The run Ellis gave up came about due to an error and was unearned last I checked, I wonder why they changed it to earned? Either way, good line again for Ellis tonight. I'll try to catch it on replay when the post the archive of the game later.
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Ellis has 1 next to ER.. so I assume they changed it.
 
CJ9 said:
Herbert and Riley have been pretty disappointing so far this year.
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Herbert is a high school product who played in two games last year before hurting his knee. He's teenager in a full-season league. Take a deep breath.

FYI: he's thrown out five of eight base stealers so far.
 
Braves1976 said:
The run Ellis gave up came about due to an error and was unearned last I checked, I wonder why they changed it to earned? Either way, good line again for Ellis tonight. I'll try to catch it on replay when the post the archive of the game later.
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Why? Because the Southern League is full of bozos for official scorers. I should know; I am one.
 
rico43 said:
Herbert is a high school product who played in two games last year before hurting his knee. He's teenager in a full-season league. Take a deep breath.

FYI: he's thrown out five of eight base stealers so far.
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This place can be really annoying at times. No one ever said we were calling him a bust or ready to cut the guy. He hasn't started off well at the plate. That's not really up for debate.
 
Just a random FYI:

Astudillo has played 10 games, 36 ABs so far (.278) and has yet to strike out or take a walk.

Last year, he was the hardest player to strike out in baseball.
 
msstate7 said:
Probably not good unless Albies is in Gwinnett
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so you are thinking they are going to spend some time together in the minors this year?? not saying by X series.. but I think the FO is going to want them playing together for at least half this year IMO.. I know they want them both being SS.. but building that chemistry is important too.. Maybe they won't and want to keep both values high, just in case they think about including one in a trade this off season..
 
bravesfanMatt said:
so you are thinking they are going to spend some time together in the minors this year?? not saying by X series.. but I think the FO is going to want them playing together for at least half this year IMO.. I know they want them both being SS.. but building that chemistry is important too.. Maybe they won't and want to keep both values high, just in case they think about including one in a trade this off season..
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Beckham and aybar are going to get extended. We're gonna trade Swanson and Albies for bullpen arms

Really though, I have no idea if they'll let Albies and Swanson play together this year. I just figured the FO would want to get extended looks at each player playing SS daily
 
CJ9 said:
Herbert and Riley have been pretty disappointing so far this year.
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Check out where the other highly-ranked high school guys are playing and how they are doing. I did today and most of the high school first rounders are still in extended spring training. The ones who are playing in full-season ball aren't doing any better than Riley or Herbert.
 
Really might be missing an opportunity to further challenge both Albies and Swanson for a short time right now. I see little reason NOT to bump them to AAA and AA while Castro's with the big club and Beckham's on the DL. Would allow them both to see better breaking stuff for a bit.

Don't see how it would hinder their development in the least if you moved them back down if/when you send Daniel back down - pretty much the same thing as giving them both a look against better pitching during camp.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Lol
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OK smartass, you think you are so smart, his career minor league ERA is barely under 4, with a WHIP of 1.40. His K/BB ratio is barely 2. None of that is anything special at all. You see hundreds of guys like him all the time that never amount to **** in the big leagues. Further, his first 34 appearances in the bigs have been putrid.
 
skillet said:
OK smartass, you think you are so smart, his career minor league ERA is barely under 4, with a WHIP of 1.40. His K/BB ratio is barely 2. None of that is anything special at all. You see hundreds of guys like him all the time that never amount to **** in the big leagues. Further, his first 34 appearances in the bigs have been putrid.
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If I were a member of his immediate family I expect I might want to slap the taste out of your mouth. Last season was one in which he had a case of pneumonia that went undiagnosed for three weeks, followed by emergency surgery that removed a rib and blood clots that, to not be dramatic at all, could have killed him. This is coming from someone who lost his mom to a blood clot that was in her leg and broke loose before she could be treated.

So this annoying board would be a better place without name calling and knee jerk summation. Yeah, he had a crappy season. Most of us understand why.
 
rico43 said:
If I were a member of his immediate family I expect I might want to slap the taste out of your mouth. Last season was one in which he had a case of pneumonia that went undiagnosed for three weeks, followed by emergency surgery that removed a rib and blood clots that, to not be dramatic at all, could have killed him. This is coming from someone who lost his mom to a blood clot that was in her leg and broke loose before she could be treated.

So this annoying board would be a better place without name calling and knee jerk summation. Yeah, he had a crappy season. Most of us understand why.
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So let me get this straight, posters can't have opinions on players unless they are either glowing, or meet your specifications. Duly noted.
 
skillet said:
So let me get this straight, posters can't have opinions on players unless they are either glowing, or meet your specifications. Duly noted.
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I don't censor, I don't control. I just happen to believe that there are ways to make your point, or state your case, without stepping into the gutter. I might agree with you sometimes, and don't at other times. It would be nice if you indicated some knowledge about the people you criticize. In this case, I felt your post was particularly insensitive; I learned some time ago that players' family members read this stuff -- even if the players don't (or shouldn't).
 
I dont think they need to wait a bit. Players have hot streaks and cold streaks, lets see if they are still hitting like this a month from now. I would leave Albies at AA all year and promote Swanson about halfway through the MILB season. AA is more prospect laden than AAA and a lot of prospects skip it. Then they go to spring training with a chance to win a roster spot but if they arent 100% sure they are ready they can spend 2 months at AAA to delay free agency by a year. Since its a new stadium I think they will want all the excitement around the ML club they can and they start the season in the majors unless they have a terrible spring.
 
50PoundHead said:
Check out where the other highly-ranked high school guys are playing and how they are doing. I did today and most of the high school first rounders are still in extended spring training. The ones who are playing in full-season ball aren't doing any better than Riley or Herbert.
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Acuna is a year younger than Herbert and Riley, which gives some perspective on his talent.
 
rico43 said:
I don't censor, I don't control. I just happen to believe that there are ways to make your point, or state your case, without stepping into the gutter. I might agree with you sometimes, and don't at other times. It would be nice if you indicated some knowledge about the people you criticize. In this case, I felt your post was particularly insensitive; I learned some time ago that players' family members read this stuff -- even if the players don't (or shouldn't).
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If I had "stepped into the gutter", I would agree with your point. However, I would like to know what part of stating I didn't think he would amount to much at the major league level due to his career minor league stats is going into the gutter? The answer, it didn't. I said nothing negative whatsoever of the man nor his family, nor would I. I was strictly pointing out stats he so far has compiled. Further, I hope Folty proves me wrong and has an outstanding major league career. I'd be quite happy to be the first to admit I was wrong. However, that is my problem with your criticism. Had I not liked a post of yours, I would have never responded with the disrespect that you administered.
 
I think with pitchers such as Folty, where stretches of dominance can occur, you kinda marginalize the numbers and wait for "it" to click. Most people that have watched him believe that there is another level for him.

Just my .02.
 
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