Substantially more? Do tell.
The trade wasn't all that bad at the time, and it's not just Braves homers who said that.
You can use hindsight and say we could've traded that package for something more useful, of course. But if Wood ends up a LOOGY and Peraza a super-sub, Dodgers fans could say they could've hypothetically traded Olivera (at the time) for something more than that result.
So yes, when someone said Wood is basically Cole Hamels and we traded him for Olivera, it's amusing to see him struggle to get outs against our terrible lineup. He could certainly turn it around, but that doesn't make it less fun at the moment.
Last year, Peraza and Wood had substantially more value than Hector Olivera. It was a ****ty deal, and I am not sure why you are so hesitant to just cop to it.
Again: Plenty of people, including non-Braves fans, didn't agree. It's fine if you think that. But it's entirely more subjective than you're making it.
Mmm. People didn't agree. That's quite an argument to fall back on.
Hey, based on the idea that we could've traded nothing and got Josh Donaldson, there's no limit to what we could've received for Wood and Peraza. Conforto? McCutchen? Trout? Harper?
Honestly, when compared to what OAK received for Donaldson... wood and Peraza would have been a damn good offer for him. Lawrie was coming off a 1.8 WAR season (Wood = 2.6)... 2 meh pitching prospects, and Barreto, who was much less favorably viewed than Peraza. But go ahead and mock that notion...
I know it's literally impossible for you to admit the braves FO made a mistake... but this one was one the dumbest trades I can ever remember us making (especially when considering full context). That will be true no matter how poorly Wood or Peraza do from here on out.
Much less favorably viewed than Peraza? Barreto is a better prospect now and definitely has more upside than Peraza. We have no clue how Oakland viewed those two. Perhaps they saw Peraza as a super-sub and Wood as a player who had hit his peak and was declining. I'd certainly take Baretto over them both right now.
I get that folks don't like the Wood deal. It hasn't turned out well, but I don't see how we could have put together as good a deal for Donaldson as Toronto did without shipping a bigger name than Peraza with Wood. I don't think that much of Lawrie, but he is a proven big-league starter. Graveman is hardly "meh." And Baretto's is younger than Peraza with a higher ceiling due to his power potential. Peraza was ranked higher than Baretto by BA and MLB, but Baretto was ranked higher by Baseball Prospectus, so given the difficulty in gauging the ceiling of 20-year-olds, that's kind of a push. And Olivera generated more buzz than either of them. On paper, the deal didn't look that lop-sided, but unfortunately it didn't work out. I'm just not seeing the path to Donaldson without sending Simmons to the A's with Wood.
Remain a slightly below average pitcher? Wouldn't that mean he's been a slightly below average player, and not a 2.6 WAR pitcher the last two years?