Power

I get that, but I don't really want a guy who has pretty good power but has struggled in his brief career, has battled injuries, AND is terrible defensively. That just doesn't really help us, IMO.

Myers hasn't been as bad in LF in a small sample as he was in CF and RF. Plus if we're strong in RF and CF with a combo of Smith and Inciarte, that should help make up for some of what Myers lacks in defense. It just depends on the cost in a trade on whether or not I'd be interested because he might be among the best realistic options at this point.
 
Have the Braves ever acquired a player with a past suspension for PED use?

At first I thought Melky, but I think all that was after his failed tenure here. I wouldn't think for a second PED suspended player would be acquired by this FO. It is pretty much a non-starter. Especially one that was as ugly as Brauns.
 
At first I thought Melky, but I think all that was after his failed tenure here. I wouldn't think for a second PED suspended player would be acquired by this FO. It is pretty much a non-starter. Especially one that was as ugly as Brauns.

Viz was popped as a cub..
Andrew McC.. was popped, but I don't remember if it was before or after we got him.
 
At first I thought Melky, but I think all that was after his failed tenure here. I wouldn't think for a second PED suspended player would be acquired by this FO. It is pretty much a non-starter. Especially one that was as ugly as Brauns.

Plus he can block a trade here and likely would if we were interested. Which is fine by me as I cannot stand him, I would hate having him play for the Braves.
 
Viz was popped as a cub..
Andrew McC.. was popped, but I don't remember if it was before or after we got him.

I believe the sequence with Viz was we traded for him on Nov 16, 2014 and he was suspended April 2015.

With McKirahan we claimed him at the end of spring training 2015 and he was suspended a few weeks later.
 
Inciarte LF

Albies SS/2B

Freeman 1B

Braun RF

Lucroy C

Garcia 3B

Swanson 2B/SS

Pitcher

Smith CF

That would be a lineup that has the potential to keep the line moving. Freeman and Braun in the middle can hit for power and average, and you have speed all over that lineup

We would have to pay Braun through 2021, when he's 37. I don't really want to do that. And I assume you're talking trade, but we would have to re-sign Lucroy.
 
How about Ruiz and Markakis to the Yankees for Judge and McCann. Sign Prado to play third.
 
How about Ruiz and Markakis to the Yankees for Judge and McCann. Sign Prado to play third.

I can't see the Yankees doing that, but even if we pulled it off, I still maintain my belief that Judge's ceiling is not all that high. He's never been young for his age, he hasn't crushed it at any level, the power has never shown up the way some believe it should, and he strikes out a lot without walking that much. I also think he's probably going to lose athleticism rapidly and be prone to break down as he gets older.
 
We would have to pay Braun through 2021, when he's 37. I don't really want to do that. And I assume you're talking trade, but we would have to re-sign Lucroy.

Of course, but if we can get 3 good and above average years out of Braun and extend Lucroy I think it is worth it.....By that point we will hopefully have options readily available to where we would have the flexibility to trade Braun
 
Of course, but if we can get 3 good and above average years out of Braun and extend Lucroy I think it is worth it.....By that point we will hopefully have options readily available to where we would have the flexibility to trade Braun

I just don't think trading Braun at 35 with 2-3 years left on his deal will be an easy proposition. I wouldn't be totally against adding him, but I don't see it as the kind of move this FO is going to make.

Guys can fall off a cliff quickly at this age.
 
I can't see the Yankees doing that, but even if we pulled it off, I still maintain my belief that Judge's ceiling is not all that high. He's never been young for his age, he hasn't crushed it at any level, the power has never shown up the way some believe it should, and he strikes out a lot without walking that much. I also think he's probably going to lose athleticism rapidly and be prone to break down as he gets older.

Think about it from the Yankees' perspective. Their top prospect (Gary Sanchez) is a catcher in AAA. Their right fielder (Beltran) is a free agent after this season. Headley is signed through 2018 but has put up OPS of .700 in 2014, .693 in 2015 and .406 so far this year. They would probably like an alternative almost ML ready third baseman like Ruiz.

As for Judge, I am not a big fan. He is not perfect or without risk. But neither are the alternatives we have been discussing. Plus Judge does have some upside.

Another possibility is a trade for Gary Sanchez. But I suspect the Braves preference is for a veteran catcher to help bring along a young pitching staff.
 
braun has a no trade and would likely use it to atl. Braun and Lucroy would solve a lot for atl. But lucroy will be a FA soon, over 30 and expensive to acquire. Braun is expensive and has the no trade

Rockies aren't trading arenado until the gun is at their head. they might trade Mc whatever

Judge isn't that good IMO. Just tall.

Gattis might be available next year for chearp...he's still really low on the OBP
 
braun has a no trade and would likely use it to atl. Braun and Lucroy would solve a lot for atl. But lucroy will be a FA soon, over 30 and expensive to acquire. Braun is expensive and has the no trade

Rockies aren't trading arenado until the gun is at their head. they might trade Mc whatever

Judge isn't that good IMO. Just tall.

Gattis might be available next year for chearp...he's still really low on the OBP

I think Gattis will get non tendered after this season.
 
How about Ruiz and Markakis to the Yankees for Judge and McCann. Sign Prado to play third.

I've been thinking about this. During George Stienbrenner's day, the Yankees would just spend until they got their team turned around. But, he's gone and they seem much more financially aware.

Nearly their entire team is ancient and approaching their baseball end of life, so from that aspect I think they would be reluctant to part with prospects. OTOH, their payroll is clearing and they will always need to be one of the highest payroll teams in baseball to keep the spotlight in NY. So, what I think they will do is try to shed contracts either through trade or through end of life, and add a lot of FA talent over the next two years as they go, plus supplement from their minors. I think they will be big players for Strasbourg, especially with Sabathia coming off their books. Outside of third base, their IF looks pretty decent long term. The one big albatross contract they have is Ellsbury.

I might float a concept along the lines of AJ, Adonis Garcia and Olivera for Ellsbury (Yanks pay half his contract including buyout), McCann, Headley, and OF Judge, 3B Miguel Andujar and OF Leonardo Molina.

Why would the Yanks do it? They get rid of most of their bad contracts that go beyond 2016. They open the way for Sanchez to catch on an everyday basis but get a catcher in return that can fill in this year. They also get a serviceable 3B to carry them until FA 2017 if they wish. They give up only one of their top ten prospects in Judge. But the big reason is that they move the money and line up for FA.

Why would the Braves do it? They get a power OF for RF that will cost very little over the next 4 years. Judge allows them to move Markakis and his money and hopefully bring back something useful. They add a highly paid but underperforming CF who might bounce back, might not. He may need a change of scenery. But, even if he performs no better moving forward, the Braves would be taking him on at about $10M per year, giving up Olivera at about $4M per year and adding Judge at ML minimum. The Braves might be able to then pay half of Ellsbury contract, equivalent to $25M total which is close to what they are on the hook for with Olivera, and trade him to a team that needs a LO CF as a $5M per year player. McCann becomes the LH hitting veteran (LH yin to Flowers yang) who mentors the young pitching over the next few years and comes off the books just as some of the young talent starts making real money. Headley is a change of scenery guy for the Braves who "probably" regains enough form to become at least as good as potential FA stop-gap 3B guys like Freese and Prado.

Essentially the Braves are buying Judge and the two young guys by their willingness to take on some bad Yankee contracts.

It only works if the Braves are not done in moving players. For instance, if the above were done you would have Inciarte, Ellsbury and M Smith all playing the same position. IMO, you would trade Inciarte who is the most valuable and hope to build enough value where you could move Ellsbury at some point and play M Smith there moving forward. You would have Judge and Markakis for RF. Markakis would need to go, even if Judge isn't 100% ready, and play Frenchy there until Judge is ready.
 
they are not trading AJ.. he took less money to stay in ATL so that he doesn't have to move his family again. It would be a dick move to then trade him..
 
they are not trading AJ.. he took less money to stay in ATL so that he doesn't have to move his family again. It would be a dick move to then trade him..
his motivation was that he could stay at his house in orlando during spring training
 
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