2016 DRAFT Signing Tracker ... FINAL, JULY 15

rawwr said:
Yeah by my count the Cumberland signing puts them at $10,510,000.00 with the other bonuses listed on page 1, so that leaves them with $3,375,305.00 before they hit the 5% over mark.
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So we're good as long as Anderson doesn't ask for $3,375,305.01?
 
Pick slot value Signed
#3 $6,510,800.00 $0.00
#40 $1,616,800.00 $3,050,000.00
#44 $1,459,700.00 $2,500,000.00
#76 $838,900.00 $1,500,000.00
#80 $788,800.00 $900,000.00
#109 $546,800.00 $1,200,000.00
#139 $409,600.00 $275,000.00
#169 $306,600.00 $25,000.00
#199 $229,700.00 $10,000.00
#229 $184,100.00 $10,000.00 Hyssong
#259 $171,800.00 $0.00 Neslony
#289 $160,500.00 $0.00 Mooney
Rowland $300,000.00 (signed for $400K)
Becherer $175,000.00 (Signed for 275K)
Davidson $25,000.00 (signed for 125K)

Total $13,224,100.00
Total + 5% $13,885,305.00
Total signed $9,970,000.00
remaining $3,915,305.00
 
striker42 said:
That the draft was going to be a good one was never in doubt. When you have a top 3 pick and 3 picks in the first 45, you're going to have a good draft. I think people who were critical of the draft don't think that it was a terrible draft but that it wasn't as good as it could have been. Personally, I wasn't a fan of the strategy of going bargain shopping with the 3rd overall pick. I can understand the strategy, it's just not one I would have employed. It would have turned out better if a prep bat had fallen instead of Wentz but that's a risk you take with this kind of strategy.

To reiterate, we had a great draft. Got lots of talent. I just personally prefer trying to go all in at 3.
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TROLL!!!!!!
 
bravesfanMatt said:
Pick slot value Signed
#3 $6,510,800.00 $0.00
#40 $1,616,800.00 $3,050,000.00
#44 $1,459,700.00 $2,500,000.00
#76 $838,900.00 $1,500,000.00
#80 $788,800.00 $900,000.00
#109 $546,800.00 $1,200,000.00
#139 $409,600.00 $275,000.00
#169 $306,600.00 $25,000.00
#199 $229,700.00 $10,000.00
#229 $184,100.00 $10,000.00 Hyssong
#259 $171,800.00 $0.00 Neslony
#289 $160,500.00 $0.00 Mooney
Rowland $300,000.00 (signed for $400K)
Becherer $175,000.00 (Signed for 275K)
Davidson $25,000.00 (signed for 125K)

Total $13,224,100.00
Total + 5% $13,885,305.00
Total signed $9,970,000.00
remaining $3,915,305.00
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Oh, for picks after 10 is it just the overslot amount that counts toward our total?
 
The criticism of the Braves strategy with going under slot at the 3rd pick makes very little sense at all, and the argument that the draft could have been better had they targeted a player who wanted the entire slot value for the #3 pick makes even less sense.

This is a draft where there was no clear cut #1. The #1 pick in the draft was a guy who rated 10-15 in the draft just 3 months ago, and he is a prep bat who does not offer plus power potential. There was not a lot of separation between #1 and #15 in this draft. So, the Braves chose the avenue to get themselves multiple guys they had in their top 25. Had they gone the other route and drafted a guy who would have demanded his slot value at #3, then the Braves would have gotten one player who was in their top 25 and likely 2 that would not have been in their top 50 due to signability issues at 40 and 44. There likely would have been no Brett Cumberland and no high upside arm of Bryse Wilson either. No Matt Rowland.

You are fooling yourselves into thinking that there was a player that was so markedly better than Ian Anderson at #3 that the Braves screwed the pooch by not taking him. I'm not one that is going to delude myself into thinking that I know more than what the Braves scouts know, or that Baseball America or any other publication knows more than what they know.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
until we get everyone signed and I know we are not losing a draft pick next year.. I will not be happy with our draft.
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I really wouldn't worry, the Braves aren't going to forfeit a pick next year and they aren't signing these guys without knowing they can still get Anderson into the fold.

They had enough time before the draft with Anderson to know what his number was and wouldn't have gone overslot on many of the other guys if they thought they'd have trouble getting 1:3 signed.

If I'm wrong and they've bungled this - they lose most of their credibility in my eyes, but I'm pretty sure they have this figured out.
 
I've contended that we did not have a surplus of starting pitching. I think after this draft that is no longer the case. We took an abundance of promising arms: Anderson, Wentz, Muller, Harrison, Wilson, Walker, Rowland.

I have a pretty precise definition of how much is enough at the minor league level. It is based on two criteria. One is you want to produce or graduate one major league starter per year. The second is that you lose one prospect per level when it comes to starting pitching. So if you have 2 in AAA, one will make it. You also need 3 in AA, 4 in High A, 5 in Low A to be on that pace of one a year.

With the guys we took in this year's draft, I think our full season teams next year will have what is needed to produce or graduate one major league starter per year.
 
Preacher said:
I really wouldn't worry, the Braves aren't going to forfeit a pick next year and they aren't signing these guys without knowing they can still get Anderson into the fold.

They had enough time before the draft with Anderson to know what his number was and wouldn't have gone overslot on many of the other guys if they thought they'd have trouble getting 1:3 signed.

If I'm wrong and they've bungled this - they lose most of their credibility in my eyes, but I'm pretty sure they have this figured out.
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Anderson has already agreed to sign, so Cumberland signing for $1.5 million was done so with them knowing what Anderson will get in his bonus.
 
Preacher said:
I really wouldn't worry, the Braves aren't going to forfeit a pick next year and they aren't signing these guys without knowing they can still get Anderson into the fold.

They had enough time before the draft with Anderson to know what his number was and wouldn't have gone overslot on many of the other guys if they thought they'd have trouble getting 1:3 signed.

If I'm wrong and they've bungled this - they lose most of their credibility in my eyes, but I'm pretty sure they have this figured out.
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I agree.. even with the last part. If they messed this up, then they will lose all credibility in my eyes!!
 
@jimcallisMLB
15th-rder Zach Becherer signs w/@Braves for $150k ($50k vs pool). Rend Lake (Ill.) CC RHP, FB into mid-90s before TJ this spring. @MLBDraft

That give me back 125K...
 
50PoundHead said:
I know Anthony was on a lot of folks' radar (and I haven't bothered calculating the total bonus outlay to this point), but I don't see how the resources to sign him are there.
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Not necessarily true, but I'd think it completely comes down to what Hyssong, Neslony, and Mooney get.

For whatever reason, the numbers MLBTR had in the story were different than what we found - $13,319,600. Add the 5% leeway and you've got $13,985,580. If Anderson agreed to $3.5 million prior to the draft when we hoped to float him to #40, you've got...

Anderson - $3,500,000
Wentz - $3,050,000
Muller - $2,500,000
Cumberland - $1,500,000
Harrington - $900,000
Wilson - $1,200,000
Walker - $275,000
Gonzalez - $25,000
Moss - $10,000

Later Round Overages - $500,000

Assumed Bonuses For Rounds 8-10 - $30,000

We'd be at $13,490,000, or $495,580 short of the cap.

I don't recall exactly how the college tuition thing works against the pool, but if only the bonus part counts against the cap, there's still enough wriggle room to meet $250,000 for Anthony and bump Anderson closer to the "around $4 million" that Heyman reported ($3.7 million-ish).
 
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