Yeah, I mean we obviously ****ed up a little bit somewhere, but we were like 16 hours removed from Anthony going to Auburn as it was. I think we should obviously err on the side of the player, but realistically the Braves cannot afford to lose a draft pick next year, and this unfortunate situation is the result. We get some egg on our face, but Anthony goes back to his plan from the previous day and hopefully tears it up at Auburn and becomes a millionaire next year.
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Yeah, I mean we obviously ****ed up a little bit somewhere, but we were like 16 hours removed from Anthony going to Auburn as it was. I think we should obviously err on the side of the player, but realistically the Braves cannot afford to lose a draft pick next year, and this unfortunate situation is the result. We get some egg on our face, but Anthony goes back to his plan from the previous day and hopefully tears it up at Auburn and becomes a millionaire next year.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I am mad because I wanted Anthony. But on top of that the way the Braves handled this is horrible. 1. They should have done dugilence before letting this go public. 2. Why are they signing guys they value less first. 3. They needed to lock up slot value guys first before over slotting round 10+ guys. Nelsony has more leverage than any college senior in the history of the game. He knows if the Braves don't sign him they loose a draft pick. Same for Anderson. I have been saying this all along in this thread. I didn't like them over slotting all these guys before gettiing your under slot guys done first. I am very happy with the draft. Not happy with how they signed them. I still see a possibility that this can go really bad.
rico43
<B>Director of Minor League Reports</B>
I had one random thought overnight (no, about this topic) that I wanted to put out there before I completely wash my hands of this.
We have not heard from the NCAA on this. We all know that the kid agreed to the contract on Thursday, pending the physical, which was the only reason the deal was not already signed. I am trying to remember the last time an athletic agreed to pro terms, whether he signed or not, that did not affect his eligibility. If he received so much as a ballcap or pennant from the Braves, he's a pro and he's ineligible. No one seems worried about this, so maybe everything's fine in taht area. But I admit I'm surprised that something didn't happen that would have closed off any chance he had of being eligible.
We have not heard from the NCAA on this. We all know that the kid agreed to the contract on Thursday, pending the physical, which was the only reason the deal was not already signed. I am trying to remember the last time an athletic agreed to pro terms, whether he signed or not, that did not affect his eligibility. If he received so much as a ballcap or pennant from the Braves, he's a pro and he's ineligible. No one seems worried about this, so maybe everything's fine in taht area. But I admit I'm surprised that something didn't happen that would have closed off any chance he had of being eligible.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
We each responsible for bringing our own pitchfork?
KB21
Where's My Cup of Coffee?
Some are looking for any reason they can find to criticize anything and everything this front office does. If this were Billy Beane, you wouldn't hear a damn peep about it.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I am a huge posi brave but I feel I listed fair points about how this was very poorly handled. Doesn't mean I hate the FO. Just they have made mistakes. This one I particularly hate
dak
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Anderson expected to sign tonight at Turner Field and report to GCL Sunday.
http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2016/jun/25/signing-day-ian-anderson/
http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2016/jun/25/signing-day-ian-anderson/
dak
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It was a pretty black and white administrative error. I feel pretty safe in assuming that Brian Bridges would admit that he and his team made a mistake, and that they'll be reflecting on how to prevent something like this happening again. Don't see how there's any connection to one's perspective on player valuation philosophy.
Since we backed out before he signed a deal, I doubt it'll hurt the kid's eligibility in any way. I feel like in a lot of cases the NCAA is significantly less strict with baseball players.
It is a big deal in that they made an offer to a kid and rescinded; its bad business.
It's a professional organization with many educated individuals working in the front office. To make this blunder is laughable and shameful. I understand there are cap limitations and plenty of fluid parts in place trying to get kids signed and make sure you don't exceed. But there were many better ways to go about the Anthony situation. Don't offer him the 250 if there's any chance you can't honor that. Simply explain to him that you are getting close to the cap, and you want to offer him the 250, but you have to make sure others sign for what you expect them to. If it works out like you want it to, go back to him and offer him as much as you can. The deadline is still weeks away. Why rush it and screw this up?
I haven't lost complete faith in the FO over this one mistake. But combined with the Olivera decision and not being able to manage a 25 man roster, those are some pretty boneheaded choices for guys getting paid nicely to run an organization.
It's a professional organization with many educated individuals working in the front office. To make this blunder is laughable and shameful. I understand there are cap limitations and plenty of fluid parts in place trying to get kids signed and make sure you don't exceed. But there were many better ways to go about the Anthony situation. Don't offer him the 250 if there's any chance you can't honor that. Simply explain to him that you are getting close to the cap, and you want to offer him the 250, but you have to make sure others sign for what you expect them to. If it works out like you want it to, go back to him and offer him as much as you can. The deadline is still weeks away. Why rush it and screw this up?
I haven't lost complete faith in the FO over this one mistake. But combined with the Olivera decision and not being able to manage a 25 man roster, those are some pretty boneheaded choices for guys getting paid nicely to run an organization.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
To me, this is the only damning aspect. This probably happens all the time, but both the Braves and Anthony got ahead of themselves a bit. But I think you're right about the Rowland and Becherer deals. Davidson was only $25,000, so that's not that big a deal. If they wanted Anthony that badly, draft him in the 12th round instead of the 16th and/or don't sign Becherer (who is out with TJS) to an above slot deal. When you're aggressive, you're going to make mistakes. This is probably more a battle between area scouts as opposed to what is happening above them except for the publicity angle.
Lol. I think there's a lot of overreaction in this post.
The kid seems very OK with this, why are posters angrier than he is?
We also don't have all the details, maybe Anthony jumped the gun a little bit.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Agree. I'll go back to the aggressiveness angle. They weren't really in a position to go to $250,000 given the other moving parts so they just should have told Anthony, "you are a priority but we don't know if we can get this done given your salary requirements." That probably falls on the area scout for not giving the Braves Anthony's drop-dead number before he was drafted (or Anthony may have changed his demands). This can still get done. We just have to wait on Anderson and Neslony.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
My guess as well.
It's certainly egg on their face right now - but 'shameful' seems a little overboard.
Deester11
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I'll supply them if it falls through!!!
cajunrevenge
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The amount of ignorance about this is crazy. It's not a deal till its signed. Teams have every right to pull their offer before it's signed just as the players has every right to change his mind and go to college. The Braves are hardly the first team to do this and if I bet there's atleast 10 other occurrences in this draft alone where a team pulls an offer.