Olivera traded for Kemp

Enscheff said:
According to MLBTR:

"San Diego, then, would be saving anywhere from $13.5MM to $15.5MM over the duration of the 2017-19 seasons. They’ll also save about $5MM on the remainder of Kemp’s 2016 salary. The Braves, who have a very minimal amount of commitments on their long-term ledger, can effectively look at this as an opportunity to acquire Kemp on a three-year deal worth $13.5MM to $15.5MM."
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I know, I alluded to that in asking dak my question. But the way he broke it down shows they may be mistaken. 13.5MM to 15.5MM extra is lot less than a 30-32m difference.
 
Enscheff said:
According to MLBTR:

"San Diego, then, would be saving anywhere from $13.5MM to $15.5MM over the duration of the 2017-19 seasons. They’ll also save about $5MM on the remainder of Kemp’s 2016 salary. The Braves, who have a very minimal amount of commitments on their long-term ledger, can effectively look at this as an opportunity to acquire Kemp on a three-year deal worth $13.5MM to $15.5MM."

So if they are right, the Braves are getting Kemp for $18.5m-$20.5m.
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That would mean the Braves are getting the Dodgers money plus an additional 10-12 from San Diego.
 
Braves1976 said:
I know, I alluded to that in asking dak my question. But the way he broke it down shows they may be mistaken. 13.5MM to 15.5MM extra is lot less than a 30-32m difference.
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The 30-32 million posted includes the 5 million for Kemp the rest of this season and assumes the money we are getting is only the money the Dodgers were sending and nothing extra.
 
thewupk said:
That would mean the Braves are getting the Dodgers money plus an additional 10-12 from San Diego.
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Yes. I've never seen a trade where money paid by the 1st team was mentioned as being money paid by the 2nd team to the 3rd team. The 3rd team always has traded for the remainder of the contract. I think dak is reading too much into it.
 
dak said:
It all comes down to the $ being sent to SD by LAD. If it's not coming to the Braves, we're effectively paying $30-$32m. If it is coming (and I'm not expecting it to), we're effectively paying $18-$20m.
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Agreed. It's effectively the difference between 4.6 to 5.3 million extra per year for Kemp or 8.6 million extra per year. The 4.6 to 5.3 number would indicate market value imo.
 
@BNightengale 7m7 minutes ago
The #Padres will wind up saving more than half of the $54 million Matt Kemp is owed when deal is completed
 
What a fantastic trade. Dumped Olivera's dead weight and brought in a guy with some pop. No downside to this IMO. Finally we have a not-completely-terrible #4 hitter.
 
cajunrevenge said:
The Padres cant keep the money the Dodgers were paying for Kemp. I cant think of one example of that ever happening.
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In that scenario they wouldn't be. They would pass it on to us. So we'd essentially take on all of the Padres financial responsibility.
 
dak said:
This seems to indicate it's the $30m-$32m

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But the fact that it's stated as the $54 million owed to Kemp is just as confusing. Kemp is owed far more than $54 million, so if that's the quoted figure remaining, then Olivera's $28 million and the $10.5 million would add up to $38.5 million and put us in the $15 million range.
 
I actually really like this deal, got rid of Hector and added a guy with pop and didn't have to throw in any prospects to do it.

If the FO isn't BSing about our payroll going up, nothing to really dislike here.

Kemp can hit 25 HRs a year for us, we need that power even if it comes at an expensive price and without much else.
 
cajunrevenge said:
The Padres cant keep the money the Dodgers were paying for Kemp. I cant think of one example of that ever happening.
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Logically speaking though, the team agrees to pay money to second team. What its for is pointless. I dont think the money moves with the player. I could be wrong, but I dont think thats how it works.
 
mqt said:
But the fact that it's stated as the $54 million owed to Kemp is just as confusing. Kemp is owed far more than $54 million, so if that's the quoted figure remaining, then Olivera's $28 million and the $10.5 million would add up to $38.5 million and put us in the $15 million range.
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Yea, I am still confused as various folks reporting on this seem to have the math different by quite a bit. I'll just shut up for now until the math is confirmed by more sources later.
 
Trades not a big deal either way. We finally have some RH power in the lineup for next year which is nice. But the confusing thing for me is how dead set this FO was on clearing bad contracts and traded away some of our premium talent for less talent back in order to clear bad contracts. But when we finally are in a good payroll spot, we just take on a declining, injury prone OF with a bad contract.
 
gilesfan said:
Logically speaking though, the team agrees to pay money to second team. What its for is pointless. I dont think the money moves with the player. I could be wrong, but I dont think thats how it works.
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Every deal is different, but I'm pretty sure the Hampton deal was built that way.
 
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