Olivera traded for Kemp

Both Jim Bowden and Joel Sherman now saying the Padres are sending $10.5m. So at least that part's clear now.
 
thewupk said:
HO is owes 20.5 million. Kemp is owed 54 million from the Padres.

HO I consider a sunk cost so with the Braves getting at minimum 10 million that means the Braves would be adding on 23.5 million over the next 3 seasons or right under 8 million per year.
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I think the way to look at it is the payroll.

Yes, Oliveira was a sunk cost. But the Braves have now increased a 6 million dollar per year sunk cost with a 14 million dollar a year salary. so they have increased the percentage of their payroll tied up in a single player. This deal needs Kemp to play well enough to be flippable (even if he is not flipped).
 
Sherman tweets that they are sending 10.5 towards the 54 million. Confirms Pads savings at 15 million. If that's accurate I like the deal.
 
So essentially the Padres had no luck finding a taker for Matt Kemp without eating most of his contract. So knowing they couldn't get anything of value for him, they "sold" him to us, release Olivera, and save money.
 
dak said:
Both Jim Bowden and Joel Sherman now saying the Padres are sending $10.5m. So at least that part's clear now.
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So two possibilities now . . . Braves effectively paying $31.5m or Braves effectively paying $19.5m.
 
emk418 said:
So essentially the Padres had no luck finding a taker for Matt Kemp without eating most of his contract. So knowing they couldn't get anything of value for him, they "sold" him to us, release Olivera, and save money.
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Sounds good to me
 
dak said:
So two possibilities now . . . Braves effectively paying $31.5m or Braves effectively paying $19.5m.
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What a confusing little deal that is either a relative steal or a bit of an overpay based on how the details of Kemp's remaining money works.
 
So how it breaks down year by year:

Net salary additions

17: +8.5

18: +8

19: +7

20: -8.5

22:-1

I actually like how this works out. We pay the most on the front end when we will hypothetically suck the most and have cheap young players and then pay less the following 2 years then have an extra 8.5 to spend in 2020 that we wouldn't have without this trade.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
Who cares about the money? It's not our money. Just light it on fire. Who cares?

We got power. And we got power in exchange for jack ****.
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I care about the money because we're a mid market team that has always had payroll limitations. Taking on money means you have less money to spend on other players.
 
Oklahomabrave said:
So how it breaks down year by year:

Net salary additions

17: +8.5

18: +8

19: +7

20: -8.5

22:-1

I actually like how this works out. We pay the most on the front end when we will hypothetically suck the most and have cheap young players and then pay less the following 2 years then have an extra 8.5 to spend in 2020 that we wouldn't have without this trade.
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This is the most useful way I've seen it broken down.
 
emk418 said:
I care about the money because we're a mid market team that has always had payroll limitations. Taking on money means you have less money to spend on other players.
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It's also about market value and player evaluation. Kemp is not even a 1 WAR player. So if they were taking on enough extra money where the Braves pay him as a 1 WAR player then that shows poor player evaluation. And that's important.
 
thewupk said:
It's also about market value and player evaluation. Kemp is not even a 1 WAR player. So if they were taking on enough extra money where the Braves pay him as a 1 WAR player then that shows poor player evaluation. And that's important.
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I don't think it's entirely unfair to project him as at least around 1 WAR, especially if his second half hitting is any indication of how the bat will play.
 
LMAO this is a compounded Failure.

So we traded at this point Wood, PEraza, Johnson for 3 months, and Avilan for a year of **** production from Olivera, Paco Rodriguez, Zachary BIrd and the right to pay Matt Kemp around 30M over the next 3 years.

I hate that trade even more than originally.
 
thewupk said:
It's also about market value and player evaluation. Kemp is not even a 1 WAR player. So if they were taking on enough extra money where the Braves pay him as a 1 WAR player then that shows poor player evaluation. And that's important.
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Says you. I see a guy who can hit the ball out of the ballpark. I don't give a crap about his artificially low WAR because of his "bad" defense (I would, however, like to see him start walking again). He catches what he gets to. He makes Freddie better, takes pressure off him and others, lengthens the lineup nicely.

This is a deal i don't want to parse too closely. Sure he's overpaid. Sure, he's not what he used to be. He's a good player for this team right now.
 
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