Cervenka Traded to MIA

Good trade. Both those guys are interesting and young. Anfernee has 80 grade speed.

Seymour is an absolute burner - makes Inciarte and Mallex look like they're cruising with Freeman.

Have kept up with him for some time. May never pan out, but he's Billy Hamilton all over again if he can.

Yet more upside for someone else scooped up off the scrap heap, yet people are already bemoaning the loss of Hunter freaking Cervenka. Funny.
 
You'll take it? Why? If Cervenka had been a pending FA I could see it, but he has proven he can get major league hitters out with 6 years of control remaining, and you trade him away for two guys that are struggling in the low minors and have very little chance of ever contributing close to what Cervenka has accomplished?

Cervenka is outperforming his peripherals and doesn't exactly have a profile that would suggest he will continue to do so. I think the Braves decided to strike while the iron was hot.
 
Seymour is an absolute burner - makes Inciarte and Mallex look like they're cruising with Freeman.

Have kept up with him for some time. May never pan out, but he's Billy Hamilton all over again if he can.

Yet more upside for someone else scooped up off the scrap heap, yet people are already bemoaning the loss of Hunter freaking Cervenka. Funny.

I don't give a damn if he has 100 speed, the guy can't hit so what good is speed if you can't get on base? Not bemoaning losing Cervenka, bemoaning the awful return.
 
I like the move. We have a lot of arms for the pen next year including several lefties. I cant see us having more than 3 lefties in the pen unless we have a lefty closer. Krol/Minter/Paco Rodriguez are the lefties I think we start 2017 with in the pen. Marksberry being the 4th option if need be. Heres what I have found about the 2 we are getting.

8. Anfernee Seymour, ss

Seymour already had the ability to be a game-changer with his legs, but he’s starting to get some feel to hit as well at low Class A. He has well-below average power, but he makes enough contact and can leg out hits with his top-scale speed. He’s a decent defender at short, but the Marlins plan to give him some reps at second base.

DR (East Coast): Any words on Anfernee Seymour? Seems to have game breaking speed and a solid hit tool.
Vincent Lara-Cinisomo: Yes, Seymour got a lot of late consideration for the top 10 because of that top-of-the-scale speed. The hit tool is a question, as is the eventual position. They’d love to see Anfernee stay in the dirt, but he might ultimately best be served as a utility player whose ‘disruptive speed’ as one scout put it could cause problems for opponents.

Llanes said Seymour was the fastest high school player in the 2014 draft, and scouting director Stan Meek said the shortstop ran the 60-yard dash in 6.14 seconds, which is the best he has ever timed.

“He has a long way to go,” Llanes said of Seymour, 20, who spent the season at short-season Batavia. “But he’s further ahead than what I thought two years ago.”

Born in the Bahamas, Seymour played his junior year of high school at American Heritage High in Delray Beach, Fla.

As a senior, he played for a Delray Beach baseball academy called Elev8, which is run by former major league infielder Luis Alicea.

A righthanded-hitting center fielder back then, Seymour signed with the Marlins for $400,000 and became a switch-hitting shortstop.

At 5-foot-11, 165 pounds, he doesn’t project to have much power. He hit .273/.338/.349 in 64 games this season and ranked second in the New York-Penn League with 29 steals.

Batavia manager Angel Espada said Seymour is “very smart” and has made huge strides from the start of the season.

Espada said Seymour, who bats leadoff, has the green light to run any time he wants, but the two of them talk often about the best counts on which to turn it loose.

“He steals most of his bases on pure speed,” Espada said, “but he has the work ethic and willingness to study pitchers’ moves.”

Defensively, Seymour works on his “internal clock,” knowing the runner and how much time he has to make a play. For now, Seymour has a tendency to rush throws and over-run grounders.

2015 scouting report

10) Michael Mader, LHP, Grade C+: Age 21, second round pick out of Chipola Junior College, posted 2.00 ERA with 28/16 K/BB in 45 innings in New York-Penn League. Another low-90s arm, sometimes faster, good curveball, other pitches need work, a fact reflected in low strikeout rate to this point. That said, he may have more broad-based potential than any pitcher in the system not named Kolek.

13. Michael Mader, LHP Video: Mader took a big step forward this year with his velocity jumping from the upper 80’s to the low 90’s and hitting 95 mph. He also flashed an above average curveball and changeup with the command to start, but would only show one or two of those four elements in any one start. Mader’s velocity was 88-91 in some starts with the diminished arm speed giving him a fringy curveball while when he pitched 91-94, hitting 95 mph, the pitch may flash plus. His changeup is a third pitch and is mostly around average, but flashes slightly above.

8. Michael Mader LHP: The Marlins picked Mader up in the 3rd round in the 2014 Draft, and loved his makeup and projectability. Mader has the potential to be a 3-5 starter in the future, with three above average offerings: fastball, changeup and curveball.

The 20 year-old was lights out in 12 starts for the Single A Batavia Muckdogs last year, posting a 2.00 ERA, 1.04 WHIP and .199 opponent’s batting average. Mader isn’t a typical strikeout pitcher, though he does have the ability to K any batter. He’ll likely start in the upper ranks of Single A to start 2015.
 
Love this deal. I don't think hc is that good. Was in Indy ball this time last yr. easily replaceable

We have 40 man issues

This clears a spot on the 40 man for some guys with upside.

Minter can take hc spot now and be a big upgrade
 
Mader seems like he took a bit of a step forward this year. I'm no expert on the Marlins system, but I suspect 24th best prospect in that system undersells him a bit. Just a guesstimation, but his value is probably just a bit behind Max Povse in our system. Will give the Braves a solid LH prospect in Mississippi next year, and he's a guy that doesn't need 40-man protection until next offseason.
 
Is very simple Cervenka was not in our future plans. Seymour can be use in the future like a bench player or we never know if the Braves will move him to play center field. The Braves need to trade every single player that's not in our future plans.
 
I don't give a damn if he has 100 speed, the guy can't hit so what good is speed if you can't get on base? Not bemoaning losing Cervenka, bemoaning the awful return.

An "awful" return for a guy who was with the Sugar Land Skeeters on July 6th last year?

If there's ONE thing the Braves' organization has consistently done as well as anyone in baseball, it's churning and burning scrap heap RPs.
 
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Mader's college coach notes on Twitter that he'll be assigned to AA Mississippi.
 
Keep in mind that this will ultimately open up a 40 man spot for the offseason meaning it's more likely we are able to keep someone like Camargo or Lien.
 
I love this trade. Who knows how these guys turn out, but our depth improves, we have guys with a solid future and I liked Cervenka, but I wouldn't bet on him being a long term success.
 
I'm feeling better about this after taking a closer look at Mader. For me, he has all the hallmarks of a 45 FV SP prospect . . . maybe even one with a touch of helium. Seymour seems like a big, big long shot. Given my valuation of Cervenka, I'm good with the trade.
 
Mader seems like he took a bit of a step forward this year. I'm no expert on the Marlins system, but I suspect 24th best prospect in that system undersells him a bit. Just a guesstimation, but his value is probably just a bit behind Max Povse in our system. Will give the Braves a solid LH prospect in Mississippi next year, and he's a guy that doesn't need 40-man protection until next offseason.
yeah, he looks like a good pickup
 
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