Snitker hired...

I'm not saying the org. definitely feels they'll move in another direction after this year. I'm just saying that giving him only a 1-year deal creates that discussion/possibility. Guys in the last years of their deals or on 1-year deals are frequently referred to as lame ducks; sometimes coaches get 1-year extensions if they're on the last year of their deal (even when organizations aren't sure of the coach long-term).

Ok, I think we were just operating on different definitions of 'lame duck.'

I've always understood that to mean people who are definitely on the way out after a certain period of time, not necessarily people that could be gone.
 
Yeezus explains pretty well, but the illusion that you only have the confidence to sign the manager for 1 year may come into play. It is just odd to me. Seems like ownership just cheaping out. What other explanation could there be?

That they legitimately want to give Snitker a shot at the permanent gig but have never seen him in that position before so are still unsure of what they're going to get? I can't imagine Snitker had an issue with it.
 
That they legitimately want to give Snitker a shot at the permanent gig but have never seen him in that position before so are still unsure of what they're going to get? I can't imagine Snitker had an issue with it.

He may not. But, he really has no leverage and has to accept the contract. It's not like other teams would be beating down the door for him.
 
No, but my point is that if you're arguing this is a lame duck situation (which to me means you're essentially planning to let him go after one year), then I would assume you're arguing he only got the permanent gig because players and fans clearly wanted it. Well, if that's the case, it's not as though it's likely that they'll want him less after we improve this year. It would just be a dumb time to have somebody manage as a lame duck. Fredi last year, sure. But once you're planning to start winning more? That's not going to work out very well.

There obviously aren't a lot of times a manager gets a 1-year deal. But there also aren't a lot of times a guy without any major league HC/PC experience is brought in as a true 'lame duck' interim and then proceeds to do so well the organization decides to make him permanent.

"Lame duck" is a bit harsh, but I understand what they're saying - and agree.

Having taken the stance that we're not trading significant prospects this winter, it seems the brass is hopeful that the second half wasn't a mirage and that the addition of a MOR starter or two combined with a bit of a step forward from Folty and the other young arms will at least make us somewhat relevant in 2017. I think that's the formula many posters have hoped to follow as well. If Kemp is back to being an .800/.850 OPS bat that can be counted on behind Freeman and you get full productive seasons from Ender and Dansby plus another shot in the arm when Albies is added to the mix, it really isn't that far-fetched to imagine this team in the hunt for a wildcard with consistent starting pitching.

I do think hiring Washington and only giving Snitker a one-year deal is their way of "hedging their bets". If the good times continue to roll next season, then you actually commit to him. If they don't, you reassign him after the season and promote Washington without drawing the ire of the players and many fans. Remember, Washington has been really successful with young rosters in the past - he was calling the shots in Arlington following the Teixeira deal, so he had Salty, Andrus, Harrison, Feliz, Hank Blalock, Derek Holland, Darren O'Day, Mitch Moreland, and Tommy Hunter when they were all breaking-in to the bigs.
 
Braves: 'hey Ron, we really want you down that 3rd base line'

Ron heard: '3rd Line'

I WILL TAKE IT!!!

**alright 50 and Julio... game on!! top that.

I came in late to make a comment about not letting Washington so close to any line. My life demands too much out of me now. I guess I'm going to have to quit everything and live on the streets and visit the library to make time for my team.
 
The cynic in me sees all kinds of sketchy reasons for hiring Snit.

I can't remember the last time a new manager got a 1 year deal with a new club, so they couldn't possibly be more non-committal to Snit without just leaving the interim tag on him (comparing the Cox and Snit situations is comical). When the Braves predictably go 75-87 next year, the FO can fire Snit and delay their accountability for losing by another year. They wanted Martinez as the pitching coach, and hiring an organizational yes-man allowed them to install the pitching coach they wanted.
 
Is Chuck Hernandez any relation to Northeast Women's Archery Champion Barbara Hernandez?

[video]http://www.hulu.com/watch/68224[/video]
 
The cynic in me sees all kinds of sketchy reasons for hiring Snit.

I can't remember the last time a new manager got a 1 year deal with a new club, so they couldn't possibly be more non-committal to Snit without just leaving the interim tag on him (comparing the Cox and Snit situations is comical). When the Braves predictably go 75-87 next year, the FO can fire Snit and delay their accountability for losing by another year. They wanted Martinez as the pitching coach, and hiring an organizational yes-man allowed them to install the pitching coach they wanted.

Looks right to me
 
Which is why he only got 1 year with the option. Obviously, players wanted this and people in this forum are happy. It comes down to winning though. He's shown he can bring to from laughingstock to .500, but does not have a track record with managing a contending team. If he can't demonstrate ability to take them to next level

in 2017, Ron Washington is right there on staff to assume the duties. Simple shuffle of the deck.

Completely agree with this.

Like the hire though, hope Snit's here a long time.
 
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Braves created a new position. Otis Nixon has been named special assistant to the 3b coach. Also, they want them to work with the guys to teach them how to steal
 
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