8-23-13 Braves at Cards

zitothebrave said:
Weeeee so mature

You act like you're the only person in the history of the internet who hasn't been attacked in some way or another. It's the internet if you can't handle it unplug your computer.
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Yup that;s it. I can't handle it. Everyone is so mean to me. Get off your high horse pal.
 
tvsportscaster said:
The Braves offense is the problem right now. A four game sweep is a distinct possibility. First back to back losses since July 20 and 21st and the lead will be down to 13 after tonight.
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I can take the losing. I just want our guys to be competitive. 3 runs in the last 18 innings is not good baseball. Wainright was is duress one inning tonight and that was it.
 
Are there seriously people in a mini-meltdown because we lost 2 in a row for the first time in over a month to one of the best teams in baseball on the road?
 
JusticeForAll23 said:
Are there seriously people in a mini-meltdown because we lost 2 in a row for the first time in over a month to one of the best teams in baseball on the road?
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No not at all. The board is actually ok tonight aside from everyone wanting to hog tie Niners and make him watch as they take his wife to pound town.
 
Bj1133 said:
I'm not giving up on Uggla just yet - lets see what he can do with proper vision out there. John Jay is a nice player, but is not better than BJ.
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Uggla is what he is. It's been almost three seasons. I don't know what else you need to see from him? Jay is a better player with better numbers. Imagine if BJ had numbers anywhere near what Jay has.
 
Cards players vs Braves players in terms of fWAR

C - Molina 4.9 Mac 2.7
1B - Craig 2.4 Freeman 3.1
2B - Carpenter 5.9 Uggla 0.9
3B - Freese 0.0 Johnson 2.4
SS - Kozma -0.2 Simmons 3.7
Lf - Holliday 2.5 Justin 3.1
CF - jay 1.2 Bossman -0.7
RF - Beltran 2.1 Heyward 2.9

So basically they have us at C, 2B, and CF. When we know that our CF is having far and away his worst season, considering the lowest fWAR he produced before this year was 2.1 a number Jay maynot best this year. So normal year they have us beat at 2B and C, maybe 3B since Freese in the past was much better and Johnson in the past was much worsee. But even with that tradeoff we are clearly a much better team in terms of position players without even considering age and cliffs and the sort.
 
zitothebrave said:
Cards players vs Braves players in terms of fWAR

C - Molina 4.9 Mac 2.7
1B - Craig 2.4 Freeman 3.1
2B - Carpenter 5.9 Uggla 0.9
3B - Freese 0.0 Johnson 2.4
SS - Kozma -0.2 Simmons 3.7
Lf - Holliday 2.5 Justin 3.1
CF - jay 1.2 Bossman -0.7
RF - Beltran 2.1 Heyward 2.9

So basically they have us at C, 2B, and CF. When we know that our CF is having far and away his worst season, considering the lowest fWAR he produced before this year was 2.1 a number Jay maynot best this year. So normal year they have us beat at 2B and C, maybe 3B since Freese in the past was much better and Johnson in the past was much worsee. But even with that tradeoff we are clearly a much better team in terms of position players without even considering age and cliffs and the sort.
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Pretty much made by point for me, and like you said those numbers don't factor in age which only gives a bigger edge to the Braves
 
David O'Brien ‏@ajcbraves 1m
#Braves Medlen after being taken out after 78 pitches: "I don't know what type of mentality we're trying to create among our starters."
 
The negativity by fans to this team is kinda sad.

This is where this team stands i nthe NL

Position player fWAR - 1
Pitching fWAR - 2
wRC+ Tied for 2
ERA- - 1
FIP- - 1
Starter ERA- - 5
Starter FIP- - tied 4
Reliever ERA- - 1
Reliever FIP- - 1

Basically we have an amazing pen, amazing defense, excellent offense and very good starting pitching. And that's with all the injuries we've sustained. Where would be with Venters, EOF, Hudson, Heyward, Mac, Gattis, and Schafer all not missing significant time? This has been a hell of a team and it's sad that the negative nancies will try to bring the team's production down. I'm bummed we lost Heyward, losing him means my dream of 100 wins is gone, but we are stil la great team and when Jason comes back for the playoffs (fingers crossed) no one will want to face us.
 
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