The Trump Presidency

[weso1]

Well, he's right to the extent that Ezra Klein is a liberal and Vox is a progressive blog.

It's a leftist propaganda site. Doesn't mean that it's wrong all the time obviously, but the info they put out is often one side and at times highly misleading. And Ezra and his gang aren't idiots, so it's purposeful. There's a whole host of leftist propaganda sites out there that are basically Breitbart of the left. For whatever reason many leftists refuse to acknowledge the obvious bias on their own side. Makes it tough to have a reasonable discussion with the ones who refuse to acknowledge the bias. I don't really mind the bias, so long as there exists a counter balance on the other side. Something that worries me is that with the move towards censoring mainly right wing opinion, that eventually the leftist propaganda will go largely unchecked. Unfortunately the owners of a lot of social media are huge social justice warriors and ignore facts and logic presented by those in the center.

 

[50PoundHead]

Man, if that money from overseas can find a way inside our country we could see a revitalizaton of the country.

The money is already here.

 

[Julio3000]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Just got a call from my friend Bill Ford, Chairman of Ford, who advised me that he will be keeping the Lincoln plant in Kentucky - no Mexico

Did Ford ever say that anything from Kentucky WAS moving to Mexico?

 

[Julio3000]

I don't like Romney at State, what about Treasury?

To follow up on my post above, I wonder if Trump isn't going to try to score some points for magnanimity by "considering" these folks for cabinet appointments, enjoy the optics of their trips to Trump Tower to kiss the ring, then compound the humiliation by not offering them jobs.

I'm only about 50% kidding.

 

[sturg33]

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lol

Are you one of those people who consider FDR one of the best Presidents of all time?

 

[Hawk]

To follow up on my post above, I wonder if Trump isn't going to try to score some points for magnanimity by "considering" these folks for cabinet appointments, enjoy the optics of their trips to Trump Tower to kiss the ring, then compound the humiliation by not offering them jobs.

I'm only about 50% kidding.

I more or less agree with your first point, but doubt that his goal is to ultimately humiliate them. It's kind of like mutually assured relevance.

 

[The Tariff King]

Yes.

Romney and Haley are particularly interesting.

Romney gave an entire televised speech that was Anti-Trump. Haley spoke at rallies against Trump.

I don't remember Rick Scott being anti-Trump but he probably kept his silence anyways since Trump was doing so well in Florida.

I mean Trump basically said Mitt would have got on knees if he asked him to for the 2012 endorsement.

The only other way I see Trump offering those two something is if he's trying to appeal to other parts of the party that haven't been in favor to him yet.

 

[Hawk]

Did Ford ever say that anything from Kentucky WAS moving to Mexico?

Not that I can find. Trump's next tweet inferred that he prevented it from moving. I guess the bigger fish here would be the Michigan plant, or Ford announcing they weren't going into Mexico at all (they said they still were, as of two days ago).

 

[Hawk]

Are you one of those people who consider FDR one of the best Presidents of all time?

I hope he says yes.

 

[zitothebrave]

Are you one of those people who consider FDR one of the best Presidents of all time?

FDR is one of the best presidents in US history. He won WWII. Probably the second toughest task for a president after the Civil War.

 

[Hawk]

He won WWII.

lolwut.

Zito.

 

[mqt]

Are you one of those people who consider FDR one of the best Presidents of all time?

Proud Keynesian here. You can take a guess.

 

[zitothebrave]

lolwut.

Zito.

FDR was the most or second most important Ally. Chruchill gets the press, but FDR's backchannel support kept England afloat, the US basically singlehandedly defeated Japan, and with the Russians were key in taking back Europe.

 

[Hawk]

FDR was the most or second most important Ally. Chruchill gets the press, but FDR's backchannel support kept England afloat, the US basically singlehandedly defeated Japan, and with the Russians were key in taking back Europe.

I guess, first of all, do you believe toppling the Germans on the European front was a particularly difficult task?

 

[zitothebrave]

I guess, first of all, do you believe toppling the Germans on the European front was a particularly difficult task?

Not compared to Island Hopping to take over occupied Japanese land.

 

[sturg33]

Proud Keynesian here. You can take a guess.

So installing internment camps was OK from a D, but a disastrous idea for Trump? Or are you going to say you don't agree with it when FDR did it, but still consider him one of the best? That would seem like an odd contradiction.

For the record - I think the idea is despicable... and one of the many reasons FDR was a horrible President

 

[zitothebrave]

So installing internment camps was OK from a D, but a disastrous idea for Trump? Or are you going to say you don't agree with it when FDR did it, but still consider him one of the best? That would seem like an odd contradiction.

For the record - I think the idea is despicable... and one of the many reasons FDR was a horrible President

No one said it was OK. Infact the US officially apologized and offered reparations.

 

[mqt]

So installing internment camps was OK from a D, but a disastrous idea for Trump? Or are you going to say you don't agree with it when FDR did it, but still consider him one of the best? That would seem like an odd contradiction.

For the record - I think the idea is despicable... and one of the many reasons FDR was a horrible President

Figured you were going there. Absolutely a black mark on our nation and his presidency. The only thing I'd really like to point out is that nearly every former President that people consider to be good had some sort of major issue, because our nation's history is pretty appalling from a human rights standpoint.

 

[sturg33]

Figured you were going there. Absolutely a black mark on our nation and his presidency. The only thing I'd really like to point out is that nearly every former President that people consider to be good had some sort of major issue, because our nation's history is pretty appalling from a human rights standpoint.

Well... I happen to think that locking people in cages due to their skin color is racist, xenophobic, et all... that you're all screaming about Trump now.

I wonder how the colleges reacted back then.

It was a despicable that he did it. He is a dirt bag and a terrible President. Even if you ignored all of his horrible economic policies - that alone should disqualify him

But I recognize that the left has different standards for their team

 

[mqt]

Well... I happen to think that locking people in cages due to their skin color is racist, xenophobic, et all... that you're all screaming about Trump now.

I wonder how the colleges reacted back then.

It was a despicable that he did it. He is a dirt bag and a terrible President. Even if you ignored all of his horrible economic policies - that alone should disqualify him

But I recognize that the left has different standards for their team

The main difference to me is that we've evolved as a society. You could disqualify every President up to Lincoln from slavery alone and most if not all through the 19th Century from the nation's treatment of Native Americans. This does nothing to validate any policies being discussed today, because we've decided as a society that discrimination is something we should be working to eliminate.