Active shooter Ohio State campus

[thethe]

I'm not dogging you for your beliefs. I just think you go a bit overboard. Drunk drivers kill more people in the United States than adherents to radical Islam, but that doesn't keep me off the road.

I understand the numbers. I get why people fee the wag you do I guess.

Call me crazy but I think that Islamic jihad is an extremely long game and they have been slowly invading all of western society waiting g for their opportunity to strike. I am of the belief there are dormant cells all over this country waiting for the right time to activate.

Similar to global warming we need to be proactive to prevent issues that will impact our children and their children.

 

[thethe]

Because we aren't like Europe. Luckily, we actually do have a thorough screening process.

Germany accepted a bunch of refugees for economic reasons and an aging population.

Everyone else is screwed there.

How do you screen someone's personal beliefs?

 

[57Brave]

How do you screen someone's personal beliefs?

Good question

 

[Oklahomahawk]

I understand the numbers. I get why people fee the wag you do I guess.

Call me crazy but I think that Islamic jihad is an extremely long game and they have been slowly invading all of western society waiting g for their opportunity to strike. I am of the belief there are dormant cells all over this country waiting for the right time to activate. --- I don't actually disagree with you on this, I guess it's more of a matter of degree. There are millions upon millions of Muslims who are peaceful and would and will never cause problems, probably 90%. I am fine with those people as long as they behave and remember that with their religious loyalties as long as they realize if they live in country X they have to promise to support and defend country X from attacks, even if it's their own people doing those attacks, and I mean do this defending proactively, not just condemn it after it happens. If they can't do this, go the eff back to whichever catbox they came from or that they prefer to live in. The other 10% who not only want to destroy us but who actively try to do so must be dealt with and destroyed, not because I enjoy it, but because I want my kids and their kids to be able to grow up and grow old and not get shot or blown up or run over by some homicidal ahole who thinks he's helping to bring about the arrival of the 12th Imam. By the way, I also feel this way about homegrown homicidal aholes, be they Muslim, or so called Christian or whattheeffever who want to destroy this country, even those who just want to make some sort of left wing or right wing point about "Don't Tread on Them" crap. Sorry, I rambled a bit.

Similar to global warming we need to be proactive to prevent issues that will impact our children and their children. Oh dude, you just voided your membership in the Conservative movement, you are expected to turn in your membership card ASAP. After all one of my US Senators PROVED a couple of winters ago that there was no such thing as global warming because in the middle of winter in Washington DC he managed to produce a real actual snowball, which he brought into the Senate chamber to prove his point.

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[thethe]

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Agreed 100%. Problem that people don't realize that even if it's less than 10% that's almost 100 million terrorists that could potentially become killers. This I a massive problem that the free world needs to get together and solve.

 

[Oklahomahawk]

Agreed 100%. Problem that people don't realize that even if it's less than 10% that's almost 100 million terrorists that could potentially become killers. This I a massive problem that the free world needs to get together and solve.

I agree, I just think we need to go about it the right way and I don't think W or Obama has done that. Have both helped the situation here somewhat? yes, but both had also made things worse in other ways too IMO.

 

[goldfly]

even if it's less than 10%

making up numbers is fun

 

[thethe]

making up numbers is fun

I was responding to the number provided.

What number would you like? Do you acknowledge there is a number?

 

[goldfly]

of course there is some number out there but does it equal the population of a 1/3 of this country?

i would find that hard to believe

been all over this globe and met so many different types of people and honestly we are way more similar than anything else when it comes down to it.

are there some that would like to do damage? sure

we are doing more damage to our country with the way we are treating each other recently then any foreign or even born here radical religious terrorist could do to us

 

[zitothebrave]

Agreed 100%. Problem that people don't realize that even if it's less than 10% that's almost 100 million terrorists that could potentially become killers. This I a massive problem that the free world needs to get together and solve.

If there were 100 Million Terrorists around the world they wouldn't be hiding. They'd have enough people to take out pretty much any country. Countries and size of Standing Military, including active, reserve, and para.

DPRK - 7.7M
ROK - 6.6M
Vietnam - 5.5M
India - 4.8M
China - 3.5M
Russia - 3.4M
USA - 2.3M
Brazil - 2M

I'll stop there to hope you get the point.

100M people would crush any standing military even factoring in technical disadvantages.

I'm pretty sure your real number is like 1M and even that is probably optimistic.

 

[thethe]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

This shows the overwhelming numbers of Muslims that favor Sharia law. Now there is a leap that has to be made from believing in Sharia law to becoming a potential terrorist but it's confusing to me when people diminish just hoe many potential terrorists there are in the world.

 

[zitothebrave]

What those numbers show is that in parts of the country that generally favor extremism have extreme muslims. Look up **** about schristianity in Africa as well. Religion in general tends to favor the uneducated so it's not shocked that in 3rd world countries that they favor religious extremeism. For example as I recall The Vatican basically had to change their stance on condoms because their stance was a leading cause of the spread of HIV and AIDS.

 

[thethe]

What those numbers show is that in parts of the country that generally favor extremism have extreme muslims. Look up **** about schristianity in Africa as well. Religion in general tends to favor the uneducated so it's not shocked that in 3rd world countries that they favor religious extremeism. For example as I recall The Vatican basically had to change their stance on condoms because their stance was a leading cause of the spread of HIV and AIDS.

What those numbers show is we should put an immediate stop to immigration from those countries.

 

[zitothebrave]

What those numbers show is we should put an immediate stop to immigration from those countries.

I suspect we don't get too many immigrants from those areas.

 

[BedellBrave]

Was recently on the other side of the globe in a Christian hospital serving a Muslim majority community with compassion and integrity. Muslim medical doctors and nurses want to work there (understandably so). Watched as a one such doctor used some of the equipment Christians purchased on a poor Muslim man. The doctor was beaming with joy and was thankful.

Same country - had to have armed police escorts out of the city I was in. Madrasas around. Pockets of jihadists group throughout the area.

Not sure what this has to do with this post. Just think it somehow does.

 

[thethe]

Was recently on the other side of the globe in a Christian hospital serving a Muslim majority community with compassion and integrity. Muslim medical doctors and nurses want to work there (understandably so). Watched as a one such doctor used some of the equipment Christians purchased on a poor Muslim man. The doctor was beaming with joy and was thankful.

Same country - had to have armed police escorts out of the city I was in. Madrasas around. Pockets of jihadists group throughout the area.

Not sure what this has to do with this post. Just think it somehow does.

There is absolutely no question that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are amazing people. I love what you do around the globe and if more people were like you this world would be a better place.

This still doesn't change my stance because it's not worth the risk to let people in this country that could potentially harm our children.

 

[BedellBrave]

There is absolutely no question that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are amazing people. I love what you do around the globe and if more people were like you this world would be a better place.

This still doesn't change my stance because it's not worth the risk to let people in this country that could potentially harm our children.

thethe, didn't mean to infer that you should change your stance. Governments have different responsibilities and roles to play in this than churches or individuals. Also, note - despite the good our hospital does there, there are large numbers of people there who would have us gone and the number is probably more than 10%... Lots of factors involved, granted, but the West can't ignore the dangers of jihadist Islam. I still agree with you that far too many Westerners have a rather naive view.

 

[thethe]

thethe, didn't mean to infer that you should change your stance. Governments have different responsibilities and roles to play in this than churches or individuals. Also, note - despite the good our hospital does there, there are large numbers of people there who would have us gone and the number is probably more than 10%... Lots of factors involved, granted, but the West can't ignore the dangers of jihadist Islam. I still agree with you that far too many Westerners have a rather naive view.

I figured as much but wasn't sure.

It certainly is alarming the worldview that so many have but I feel the tides are changing. The world has seen was has happened in Europe and is deciding enough is enough.

 

[sturg33]

I do believe the actions we have taken and will likely continue to take under President Trump will only make things worse.

You can claim radical islam all you want. I still think "my son was killed by a drone as collateral damage" makes a whole lot more sense for motivation.

Just my $0.02

 

[thethe]

I do believe the actions we have taken and will likely continue to take under President Trump will only make things worse.

You can claim radical islam all you want. I still think "my son was killed by a drone as collateral damage" makes a whole lot more sense for motivation.

Just my $0.02

I'm cool with leaving all together and letting the Russians deal with it. Then the world will realive that the US wasn't that bad.

That still doesn't stop the fact we have to suspend immigration from these countries.