Baseball America Braves Prospect Rankings

thethe said:
His strikeout and hits against numbers indicate he is dominating.
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Yeah. He really only has one flaw in his game and that's the BB numbers. It goes back to his mechanics and release point. When he's repeating his delivery and has his release point down, he's overpowering. When things get out of whack and he loses his release point, things get ugly fast. If you go back and look at his individual games you'll see he usually dominates most of the game but will have episodes in game where he just loses it. He'll walk 3 or 4 batters in an inning, give up 3 runs, and then right the ship and be fine the rest of the way. If he can get his mechanics and release point down, he's going to be an ace. If not, he's the next Gio Gonzales.
 
smootness said:
Interesting. I could see us go after a college arm as well, since this draft looks to be so deep there. But Adell is still my guy.
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I would be very surprised if we take another college player in the first two rounds for the foreseeable future. The only caveat is if a MLB ready college hitter is available at our first pick this year. Otherwise, we will not be drafting in the top 10 for a long time which basically means that college players worth taking won't be available.
 
striker42 said:
Yeah. He really only has one flaw in his game and that's the BB numbers. It goes back to his mechanics and release point. When he's repeating his delivery and has his release point down, he's overpowering. When things get out of whack and he loses his release point, things get ugly fast. If you go back and look at his individual games you'll see he usually dominates most of the game but will have episodes in game where he just loses it. He'll walk 3 or 4 batters in an inning, give up 3 runs, and then right the ship and be fine the rest of the way. If he can get his mechanics and release point down, he's going to be an ace. If not, he's the next Gio Gonzales.
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Or it could be that the Braves are forcing him to do something out of his comfort zone and he struggles with it. Either way, there is way too much there to not think he has a chance to be a TOR pitcher. And if you believe that there is no reason to rush judgement.
 
This is kind of absurd:

Roger (Greenville, SC): I'm guessing the tools aren't quite as loud, but the similarities between Acuna's report and a young Andruw Jones are pretty striking.

Bill Ballew: That's not a bad comparison. Jones' instincts in center were better than anyone I've ever seen, and he also just screamed prospect with his power and speed combination. He never did learn to lay off breaking balls low and away, but he had an above-average major league career. Acuna could wind up having a better career at the big league level if he is able to build a solid foundation with the fundamentals.
 
thethe said:
Or it could be that the Braves are forcing him to do something out of his comfort zone and he struggles with it. Either way, there is way too much there to not think he has a chance to be a TOR pitcher. And if you believe that there is no reason to rush judgement.
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I'm with you. I still really like Newcomb. His BB rate is too high but he makes up for it by racking up Ks and almost never giving up HRs. If he can keep doing that then he'll have success at the major league level even if he's working on his control at the same time.
 
thethe said:
This is kind of absurd:

Roger (Greenville, SC): I'm guessing the tools aren't quite as loud, but the similarities between Acuna's report and a young Andruw Jones are pretty striking.

Bill Ballew: That's not a bad comparison. Jones' instincts in center were better than anyone I've ever seen, and he also just screamed prospect with his power and speed combination. He never did learn to lay off breaking balls low and away, but he had an above-average major league career. Acuna could wind up having a better career at the big league level if he is able to build a solid foundation with the fundamentals.
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That's high praise, but it also sounds like he underrates Andruw's career. 'Above average' is quite a bit of an undersell.
 
striker42 said:
Yeah. He really only has one flaw in his game and that's the BB numbers. It goes back to his mechanics and release point. When he's repeating his delivery and has his release point down, he's overpowering. When things get out of whack and he loses his release point, things get ugly fast. If you go back and look at his individual games you'll see he usually dominates most of the game but will have episodes in game where he just loses it. He'll walk 3 or 4 batters in an inning, give up 3 runs, and then right the ship and be fine the rest of the way. If he can get his mechanics and release point down, he's going to be an ace. If not, he's the next Gio Gonzales.
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Or on the lower end of the spectrum, may be Jonathan Sanchez. Really hope Newcomb can figure it out.
 
thethe said:
This is kind of absurd:

Roger (Greenville, SC): I'm guessing the tools aren't quite as loud, but the similarities between Acuna's report and a young Andruw Jones are pretty striking.

Bill Ballew: That's not a bad comparison. Jones' instincts in center were better than anyone I've ever seen, and he also just screamed prospect with his power and speed combination. He never did learn to lay off breaking balls low and away, but he had an above-average major league career. Acuna could wind up having a better career at the big league level if he is able to build a solid foundation with the fundamentals.
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Above average...yeah, I'd say 430 Homers, 5 all stars, 10 gold gloves, and being one of the best 10 players in baseball (according to WAR) for the heart of your career is above average.

If Acuna is better...I just realized how annoying it is going to be when people nickname him Acuna Matata. Berman will be dead by then right?
 
I feel so cheated that we didn't get scouting reports on some damn good prospects because they only go to 10.

And I think some of these starters that don't make it are going to be great relievers. That's where I think Newcomb and Sims end up.
 
smootness said:
That's high praise, but it also sounds like he underrates Andruw's career. 'Above average' is quite a bit of an undersell.
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I echo that. Andruw is certainly in the discussion for HOF. I'd be thrilled if Acuna gave the Braves what Andruw did. "Better" would be incredible.
 
Better than Andruw? What's that Willie Mays? Unbelievable how short Druw is being sold by that guy. Guy is probably the best defensive OF of all time and hit 430 homers. Yeah slightly above average.
 
Southcack77 said:
Above average...yeah, I'd say 430 Homers, 5 all stars, 10 gold gloves, and being one of the best 10 players in baseball (according to WAR) for the heart of your career is above average.

If Acuna is better...I just realized how annoying it is going to be when people nickname him Acuna Matata. Berman will be dead by then right?
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If he turns out that good, people can give him whatever nickname they want - I'll be the one with the *hit-eating grin laughing at them.
 
G AB R H TB D T HR RBI BB IBB SO S CS AVG OBP SLG OPS GO/AO
15 57 11 20 31 3 1 2 12 4 0 11 10 1 .351 .393 .544 .937 2.00

Too bad this stat line is Australian League, and admittedly SSS. Hard to fault an OPS of .937 anywhere. 10 steals with one CS ain't bad in 15 games, either! (Sorry I can't get headings and stats to line up, but I think you can figure them out.)
 
Acuna is going to be a stud but saying he will be better than Andruw is an absolute joke. Druw was a fantastic player and I think the reason people seem to overlook him is because how far and fast he fell.
 
One player that I think has gone under the radar around here despite consistently high rankings is Ian Anderson. It seems like the scouting community is really high on this guy.

Do we think he could be a potential TOR candidate? I keep reading the comb of Mussina which would be incredible.
 
thethe said:
One player that I think has gone under the radar around here despite consistently high rankings is Ian Anderson. It seems like the scouting community is really high on this guy.

Do we think he could be a potential TOR candidate? I keep reading the comb of Mussina which would be incredible.
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I keep reading he has 2-3 plus pitches, now. So I'd say he's definitly a TOR candidate.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I feel so cheated that we didn't get scouting reports on some damn good prospects because they only go to 10.

And I think some of these starters that don't make it are going to be great relievers. That's where I think Newcomb and Sims end up.
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When their Prospect Handbook comes out in another month or so, it goes to 30. If you mail order, the supplement gives you No. 31! They give a lot away for free, hard to begrudge them selling something many people want.

Or you can read my top 30, which will be updated between Christmas and New Year's.
 
thethe said:
Acuna is going to be a stud but saying he will be better than Andruw is an absolute joke. Druw was a fantastic player and I think the reason people seem to overlook him is because how far and fast he fell.
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Damn, I missed you. In a manly sort of way.
 
jimsnores said:
I echo that. Andruw is certainly in the discussion for HOF. I'd be thrilled if Acuna gave the Braves what Andruw did. "Better" would be incredible.
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Gut feeling is that Andruw will be third or fourth ballot. Not saying that's fair, or right, but HOF voters are fickle.
 
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