I think we've been systematically programmed to do that. I don't think Putin is a friend to the west but I don't thunk they are the most dangerous enemy either.
The Trump Presidency
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I think we've been systematically programmed to do that. I don't think Putin is a friend to the west but I don't thunk they are the most dangerous enemy either.
sturg33
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...cia-russia-help-trump-win-20161209-story.html
This "blame the Russians" campaign is really quite comical. But man is it systematic.
The claim is that they conspired against the US people by providing them information... no challenge of the accuracy, not that the emails were untrue, just that it was information. That's rich. The American people were tricked into voting for Trump because they knew the truth about Hillary.
How dare they use such cunning. The truth has no place in an open and fair election.
This "blame the Russians" campaign is really quite comical. But man is it systematic.
The claim is that they conspired against the US people by providing them information... no challenge of the accuracy, not that the emails were untrue, just that it was information. That's rich. The American people were tricked into voting for Trump because they knew the truth about Hillary.
How dare they use such cunning. The truth has no place in an open and fair election.
It's getting serious now. We are going to see massive riots on inauguration day because the crying left doesn't know how to take a loss. They are doing their best to take the electing results and throw them in the trash.
I'll be curious to see what comes of this investigation into how many illegals actually voted in the election.
sturg33
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How to get into Trump's cabinet:
1. Be a billionarie
2. Have ties to Goldman Sachs
3. Promote the same trade policies as Bernie Sanders
If you're Ted Cruz, espouse free-market captialism, and your wife is a former Goldman Sachs empolyee you're obviously a corrupt liar and your Dad killed JFK.
It seems Donald is drowning in the proverbial swamp.
1. Be a billionarie
2. Have ties to Goldman Sachs
3. Promote the same trade policies as Bernie Sanders
If you're Ted Cruz, espouse free-market captialism, and your wife is a former Goldman Sachs empolyee you're obviously a corrupt liar and your Dad killed JFK.
It seems Donald is drowning in the proverbial swamp.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Ummm. Eh, never mind I'll leave it and walk away.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Ew, I never took you for an Occupy Democrats type.
But to answer the question posed in the meme: ever heard of John McCain and Lindsey Graham?
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...r-investigation-of-russia-role-in-us-election
I'm extremely pro-Russia, but I dislike the Tillerson pick because he has no formal experience to speak of and he brings the interests of a loathsome corporate 'group' into a position that they will likely leverage to their benefit. Trump chose him because he wanted a proven negotiator in the role, which to me signals that he's likely to push forward with campaign promises to essentially use the military as a for-profit mercenary force.
More concerning is Bolton as deputy. He's an anti-UN lunatic who was influential in the whole Iraq WMD debacle and has a bone to pick with Iran. You have to pray Tillerson is as talented as advertised, because Bolton (who will essentially be running day-to-day operations) is going to be kicking the hornets nest with gusto. Syria will be first up and there will be a great deal of negotiation with the Russians over things that have nothing to do with Syria and more to do with Europe and our defense systems there. Expect sanctions to be peeled back.
It's a sad day when State becomes a tool for advancing US interests abroad instead of a transnational coalition building mechanism.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I'm not, a lot of my facebook friends are. Saw it and find it amusing.
McCain and GRaham are senators. THey weren't on the house committees.
sturg33
I
If the CIA has all this evidence they need to run it over to the congress for an investigation... they haven't done so.
But I love that we blame the messenger rather than the message.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
chop2chip
Well-known member
I really wish sports Twitter would quit using their platform for unintelligent political discourse. It's one thing if it's Bomani Jones or Lebatard who have made a living playing in the gray area. It's an entirely other thing to read people like Aaron Schatz, Jeff Sullivan, etc. dive into topics where their opinion doesn't serve any purpose beyond shouting into the void.
Didn't Curt Schilling lose his job for being too political on social media?
FWIW, I have no interest in hearing the opinions of conservative sports media either. I don't think you should use the ESPN, Fox, Fangraphs, etc. brand as a portal to round up followers than inundate them with political hot takes.
They've been exposed for the whiny children they are. It's time for the grown ups to govern again. Hopefully the world puts behind this brand of liberalism/progressiveism.
I'm sure you've realized but it's OK to call out the conservatives on their BS but it's professional suicide to do so to the libs. The ultimate double standard that has been pushed the last eight years.
That's the ole double standard you hear so much about.
It goes for being racist and hateful as well. The world has seen this hypocrisy and rejected it. Libs are doing everything they can to reject it because their time in power is over and nothing in the cards show they will get it back for a long time.
Their mishandling of the world the last 8 years has made the everyone's lives in the western world more unsafe. They were an absolute disaster and now it's up to more sensable less ideological minds to fix it.
Oklahomahawk
Boras' Client
No, WE are our own worst enemy and #2 is way far down on the list. And you're absolutely right we have been programmed in many ways/areas but to me the #1 area where we've been programmed is to split into like minded groups of Americans who hate and lambaste other Americans from different groups, just because we don't agree on everything. Thank talk radio for starting that process though lots of others have joined in the fun.
So, you're right on several points, but the one area where you VERY wrong is that now the adults are in charge. The left may be immature and whiny but clearly you haven't been paying attention to what your own party has been doing for the past 8 years. If you or your party wants to lead please do, we need it, but nobody wants to be a real leader they only want to fatten their own pocketbook and not answer for any of their own sins because "we aren't any worse than they are". Fix that and you'll take a big step towards fixing the country.