Westworld
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50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Watched it and will continue to. Pretty heady stuff. Like all HBO shows, a bit of nudity for nothing other than shock value, but that's come to be expected. Has sort of an Ex Machina feel so it's going to be delving into some existential territory. Great cast. I'll tune in again.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
after watching the first episode
this comment i quoted isn't a surprise
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i'm in on the show and hope it's another great hit for HBO cause it has potential
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Season Finale was tonight. Not gonna delve too much into the nitty gritty for spoiler reasons.
But a few questions I have.
First, guns. Why and how? The last episode really brings things to a head for me. And there is less explanation and this makes it crazier.
Second is where does it take place. We know more about the whens of the show, but the where is all over the place.
The rest are spoiler heavy so I'll come back tomorrow with a spoiler wrap.
But a few questions I have.
First, guns. Why and how? The last episode really brings things to a head for me. And there is less explanation and this makes it crazier.
Second is where does it take place. We know more about the whens of the show, but the where is all over the place.
The rest are spoiler heavy so I'll come back tomorrow with a spoiler wrap.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I enjoyed the season. Some great concepts. I will let other weigh in on their perspectives before I list a couple of gripes I have.
chop2chip
Well-known member
I enjoyed it a lot. I don't think it's a show best enjoyed watching through the same prism as a prestige drama.
The only real gripes I had with it was the unrealistic use of sex. Why would someone get his rocks off with robot in glass walled rooms where everyone can see them, including your boss?
The other was how incompetent the security systems were. Really lazy story telling even for a SyFy movie.
The only real gripes I had with it was the unrealistic use of sex. Why would someone get his rocks off with robot in glass walled rooms where everyone can see them, including your boss?
The other was how incompetent the security systems were. Really lazy story telling even for a SyFy movie.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Thewupk. My response below is to you
I think that Samurai World was thrown in as a potential spinoff. I'm fairly certain season 2 will mainly feature Westworld and the robot uprising. though I think Mauve will be in another planet impersonating a guest but being recognized by hosts (as she recognized Bernard) that risk her cover being blown. Also possibly sparking an uprising in another world? I tyhink the show's past is ripe with potential. I think you can easily focus a season on the creation of the park and on the Helos takeover. RIght there you're at 4 seasons for the show. Add in Samurai World, Knight World, Roman World, Viking World, etc. the potential for seasons and different tales goes up. The trick is making the stories matter. Without William and FOrd you don't care about the show. The turn of Ford is outstanding. He goes from old man, to villain, to savior And the heel turn of William as the man in black with a specific purpose of attempting to free the hosts.
Things I like to see in season 2. William fighting the hosts. It's what he's wanted since the start. He considered Delores special, and then looped with her until he was bored and then left only to come back and find the bigger game, the maze. Though he didn't grasp the concept of the maze, he assumed it was some kind of control. Not achieving consciousness.
Things I like to see in season 2. William fighting the hosts. It's what he's wanted since the start. He considered Delores special, and then looped with her until he was bored and then left only to come back and find the bigger game, the maze. Though he didn't grasp the concept of the maze, he assumed it was some kind of control. Not achieving consciousness.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
World's worst security guards. I thought thing were moving along at the right pace and then that ridiculous sequence showed up. Must have been security guards who flunked the TSA test.
Maeve is going to look for her daughter. Whatever comes of that I don't know. Now it's important to note that leaving the train was her first decision she made on her own. Reddit posted screen caps of Bernard looking at her programming and after getting on the train her next command was to infiltrate the mainland. So she actually gained consciousness at the end and acted on her own. So at this point we have her and Delores as the only two that are conscious I believe.
As far as the other worlds go. Like in the original movie we may see bits and pieces of them but I doubt we see any extended period of time in them.
William definitely play/fight with the hosts as to him it's all a game. That's the reason he was just shot in the arm and not killed. Ford was letting him know that he's finally getting what he wanted.
Still not sold on Ford being 100% dead. I feel that host he was making in his basement was one of himself. So either Delores shot the Ford host or the Ford host will come back so he can 'live' forever with his creation. I think the later is likely since mentioned that people like Bethoven 'became' their music.
As far as the other worlds go. Like in the original movie we may see bits and pieces of them but I doubt we see any extended period of time in them.
William definitely play/fight with the hosts as to him it's all a game. That's the reason he was just shot in the arm and not killed. Ford was letting him know that he's finally getting what he wanted.
Still not sold on Ford being 100% dead. I feel that host he was making in his basement was one of himself. So either Delores shot the Ford host or the Ford host will come back so he can 'live' forever with his creation. I think the later is likely since mentioned that people like Bethoven 'became' their music.
They are all hosts and Ford gave them the 'stormtrooper' storyline. Realistically they are all hosts though, imo, and Ford created that 'story' for Maeve. Make it more exciting for her as she tried to leave.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
I actually think, unlike most other HBO shows, the nudity is Westworld was not for shock value—at least not the usual sort. I personally really like the reading (not original to me) that the show is, in any ways, a commentary on (among other things) the nature of spectatorship, and specifically a critique of HBO's viewers and other shows/showrunners. The nudity in Westworld is mostly very clinical and sterile, and I think the staging and cinematography does a very good job of making its nudity desexualized, or at least "unsexy," in a way that nicely problematizes the sort of nudity featured in, say, Game of Thrones*. Meanwhile, the guests function, to at least some extent, as a stand-in for the viewers at home, especially those who are also fans of Game of Thrones and its ilk (of which I am admittedly one), and even more especially for those who watch the show for its sex-&-violence appeal.
* Somewhat to its credit, I think Game of Thrones attempts this as well, at times—for instance Circe's "walk of shame" scene; but it's also telling that its biggest moment of desexualized nudity involved a proud woman being shamed, spit upon, assaulted, et cetera.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
This is funny timing. I'm currently rewatching Game of Thrones and was just discussing with my wife the necessary vs. unnecessary nudity in Game of Thrones. I'm on season 2 and every episode has had nudity so far, but I think only three scenes of nudity were necessary in regards to the audience. The scene where dragon lady is disrobed by her brother, the scene where the lady of the light is being seductive to seduce the wannabe king and the scene where the gay wannabe king was seduced by his girl. All other nudity seemed like pornography.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
To be clear, I'm not anti-nudity in film/television/stage and weso has summed up my feelings better than I did. As he points out, if the nudity is central to what is happening to a character or furthers the plot in some way, it can be an effective and meaningful storytelling tool. It just seems to be a requisite on a lot of the premium cable dramas that there is nudity for the sake of nudity, which can dull its effectiveness.
You didn't appreciate Alexandra Daddario's nudity in True Detective?
Dalyn
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