Hope he hooked up with Neck and showed him how to lift weights again.
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He's been a disaster for the last 3 years and wasn't out of shape for that whole stretch. If he can just cost us 1 win on defense, I'll be thrilled, but I don't think he can get there.
bravesfanMatt
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Kemp's value will be in his oWAR. If we are thinking of moving him next off season, he will have to have a big year at the plate. What he does in the field will just have to be accepted as 'it is what it is'.. If he OPS's to an .850 range, then we have something that can be moved.
He's been dealing with injuries which resulted in the weight gain. While it doesn't explain the horrid numbers in totality this should not be ignored. The results don't give insight into the why. It's just a summary of what.
Right, I just don't have a lot of hope for him returning to his 'not good' form. He's 32 and likely not going to start heading back in the other direction.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
there could be better results with increased mobility.. but he will never go to a plus defender status.
Sure, I was just responding specifically to the claim that he would vault us into one of the top 1-4 in baseball. In order for Kemp to be worth 2-3 WAR, he needs to either rake and improve his defense, or keep his defense where it is and RAKE.
I think both will improve.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
yeah I know. And I agree with your statement.
bravesfanforlife88
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dak
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The Talking Chop crew did an interview with Coppy. Most interesting part is the comparison he makes between the Braves' and Cubs' rebuild processes (starts around the 8 minute mark). Paraphrasing here, but he says they didn't feel the longer rebuild time-horizon that the Cubs used was an option for them . . . and that the Cubs had a lot more money at their disposal.
Also, he mentioned that some team offered Maitan around $10m, and he stuck to his word to sign with the Braves for half of that.
https://soundcloud.com/foxsportssou...-on-front-office-strategy-hyperactive-trading
Also, he mentioned that some team offered Maitan around $10m, and he stuck to his word to sign with the Braves for half of that.
https://soundcloud.com/foxsportssou...-on-front-office-strategy-hyperactive-trading
NinersSBChamps
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If he doesn't think the Braves have time for a longer rebuild than he should brought in actual MLB players instead of car accident and two 40 something year old pitchers.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I like you but complete dick move about Srod
The good news is that his range (by UZR standards) was better with the Braves than anything he's done since 2011. Small sample of course but we will see how it plays out over a full season. I do think he will cost the team about 1 win on defense (fangraphs version) when not factoring in the position adjustment.
Yet he still somehow had a -1.5 dWAR in 56 games for us, which is truly impressive in its utter atrociousness. And even when he was in peak form, his 2010 defensive season was one of the worst of all-time.
What we are talking about are 3 completely different things. dWAR is from bref and uses DRS as it's defensive metric. DRS was much more unkind to Kemp than UZR was (which is what fangraphs uses). Also, dWAR includes the positional penalty of playing left which I was leaving out.
Why respond when *ssholes say stupid *hit like that? Exactly what they're looking for.
I like DRS better, but regardless, he was terrible last year. The uptick in UZR is more likely a fluke than it was legitimate improvement.
NinersSBChamps
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It's true. The Braves biggest offseason additions were two 40 year old pitchers and a utility guy who is probably not playing at all this season. Sure it was low on my part, but it's more of an indictment on how poorly Coppy and this rebuild process are going.