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Bob Nightengale

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Shohei Ohtani, the Babe Ruth of Japan, told 60 Minutes he will sign with #MLB team after season, which could cost him $200M by not waiting.

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Not going to happen, but I'd love Ohtani.

Like, give up my left testicle kind of love.
 
Hawk said:
Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
Shohei Ohtani, the Babe Ruth of Japan, told 60 Minutes he will sign with #MLB team after season, which could cost him $200M by not waiting.

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Not going to happen, but I'd love Ohtani.

Like, give up my left testicle kind of love.
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There are talent evaluators that say he's a top 10 pitching talent on the planet right now. He would be someone to go after.
 
Hawk said:
Bob Nightengale
@BNightengale
Shohei Ohtani, the Babe Ruth of Japan, told 60 Minutes he will sign with #MLB team after season, which could cost him $200M by not waiting.

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Not going to happen, but I'd love Ohtani.

Like, give up my left testicle kind of love.
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We don't have a shot, we're limited to a max of $300,000. It will be interesting to watch, though, because there will be several teams who offer him their entire pool. Won't be a ton, but will be interesting to see where he goes.

If history is an indication, though, he'll be a pretty good player who is seriously overhyped.
 
smootness said:
We don't have a shot, we're limited to a max of $300,000. It will be interesting to watch, though, because there will be several teams who offer him their entire pool. Won't be a ton, but will be interesting to see where he goes.

If history is an indication, though, he'll be a pretty good player who is seriously overhyped.
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If Ohtani is giving up 200+ million by not waiting a couple of years then I doubt a team not being able to max out signing him is going to be an issue. I think he's going to want to be able to hit and whatever team promises him the best opportunity to do that will be the one to sign him.

Also, is there anything against immediately putting him on the 25 man roster and signing him to like an 8 year extension? It's different since he is 22 and that is something you could do. Not something you would do to a 16 year old kid.
 
thewupk said:
If Ohtani is giving up 200+ million by not waiting a couple of years then I doubt a team not being able to max out signing him is going to be an issue. I think he's going to want to be able to hit and whatever team promises him the best opportunity to do that will be the one to sign him.

Also, is there anything against immediately putting him on the 25 man roster and signing him to like an 8 year extension? It's different since he is 22 and that is something you could do. Not something you would do to a 16 year old kid.
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He'll sign with a team maxing out their pool because any team who wants him will be willing to max out their pool.
 
smootness said:
He'll sign with a team maxing out their pool because any team who wants him will be willing to max out their pool.
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So you are saying he wouldn't consider a team that's in the penalty if they let him hit and pitch and no other team would give him that option?
 
thewupk said:
So you are saying he wouldn't consider a team that's in the penalty if they let him hit and pitch and no other team would give him that option?
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Are you trying to argue the Braves have a shot at $300,000?

He's likely willing to forgo a much bigger contract because he wants to go ahead and get into MLB and thinks he'll eventually make enough with the additional couple years.

Do I think he'll be willing to forgo $5 million or so and take $300,000? No, I definitely don't.
 
smootness said:
Are you trying to argue the Braves have a shot at $300,000?

He's likely willing to forgo a much bigger contract because he wants to go ahead and get into MLB and thinks he'll eventually make enough with the additional couple years.

Do I think he'll be willing to forgo $5 million or so and take $300,000? No, I definitely don't.
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I'm saying a team the most willingly to let him hit the most will have a great chance to sign him. He's already making 2.3 million in Japan this year. There is a big difference between Ohtani and 16 year old kid getting money for the first time. That signing bonus could be the only thing that 16 year old ever gets and he's years away from seeing MLB time. Ohtani would go straight to MLB and could sign an extension at any time.
 
thewupk said:
I'm saying a team the most willingly to let him hit the most will have a great chance to sign him. He's already making 2.3 million in Japan this year. There is a big difference between Ohtani and 16 year old kid getting money for the first time. That signing bonus could be the only thing that 16 year old ever gets and he's years away from seeing MLB time. Ohtani would go straight to MLB and could sign an extension at any time.
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I think I read in a recent Dave Cameron chat that MLB would not allow an immediate extension to get around the rule... could be wrong but I definitely remember a question being asked about it
 
sturg33 said:
I think I read in a recent Dave Cameron chat that MLB would not allow an immediate extension to get around the rule... could be wrong but I definitely remember a question being asked about it
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That would make sense but my point still stands. If Ohtani wanted to max out his money he would wait. I think it's clear he wants to play over here ASAP. And if he still wants to hit some he will go to a team giving him the best chance to do that which is likely an AL team. I don't think money will necessarily be a factor.
 
thewupk said:
That would make sense but my point still stands. If Ohtani wanted to max out his money he would wait. I think it's clear he wants to play over here ASAP. And if he still wants to hit some he will go to a team giving him the best chance to do that which is likely an AL team. I don't think money will necessarily be a factor.
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I agree with you that it won't be the only factor, and based on the fact that he's not waiting, it may not be a huge factor.

But getting to MLB 2 years earlier does have monetary benefits as well, so it's not as though his choice is simply between $200 million and $5 million.

But once the offers are on the table, I find it very hard to believe he would take the $300,000 offer over the $5 million offer. But we'll see, I certainly could be wrong.
 
Watching the Cubs/Brewers on mlb with Cubs' announcers. So much verbal fellatio on the Cubs' players that it ought to be X-rated.
 
Nice choice by the Nationals to add Jeremy Guthrie to their rotation. Phillies tee off for 12-run first inning; Guthrie lasted two outs. First inning took 53 minutes.
 
Wonder how much money this kid will get back at home in advertisements once he is in the big leagues.
 
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