Quick look at the players we wish the Braves had acquired

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Enscheff

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Here is a list of guys I wanted the Braves to acquire instead of the steaming pile of garbage that ended up on the roster.

The Good:
Greg Holland: 5 IP, 0 R, 8K, 2 BB
Jason Castro: .353/.542/.588 (1.130 OPS)

The Meh:
Austin Jackson: .273/.273/.364 (.636 OPS)
Desmond Jennings: .222/.333/.333( .667 OPS) in AAA

The Bad:
Drew Smyly: 60-day DL
Luis Valbuena: DL for at least a few more weeks
Rajai Davis: .167/.212/.300 (.512 OPS)
Justin Ruggiano: .200/.273/.200 (.473 OPS) in AAA

The Interesting:
Manny Margot: .343/.395/.686 (1.080 OPS)

The only pitching acquisition I approved of was Colon, and he has paired a great start with a dumpster fire start.

Why did I include Margot? Because I routinely use him as the evidence the Braves blew the Kimbrel trade. Rather than using him to unload BJ's contract, they could have had a player of Margot's caliber, who is producing at the MLB level at age 22.

So it looks like I did a terrible job identifying a capable RHed 4th OFer for the Braves, and my preference for Smyly over Dickey and Garcia is not looking too great (though neither of those guys is looking like a great idea either). When Smyly is healthy we will see if 2 years of Smyly was better than whatever the Braves patched together in his place plus Gohara.

I still think the Braves made a huge blunder by not spending $25M to acquire Castro to pair with Flowers. Holland was a no-brainer chance to take on a huge arm, but The Genius thought the BP was fine as is. If we had Valbuena to look forward to at 3B at least the position wouldn't the completely hopeless mess it is now.
 
Enscheff said:
Here is a list of guys I wanted the Braves to acquire instead of the steaming pile of garbage that ended up on the roster.

The Good:

Greg Holland: 5 IP, 0 R, 8K, 2 BB

Jason Castro: .353/.542/.588 (1.130 OPS)

The Meh:

Austin Jackson: .273/.273/.364 (.636 OPS)

Desmond Jennings: .222/.333/.333( .667 OPS) in AAA

The Bad:

Drew Smyly: 60-day DL

Luis Valbuena: DL for at least a few more weeks

Rajai Davis: .167/.212/.300 (.512 OPS)

Justin Ruggiano: .200/.273/.200 (.473 OPS) in AAA

The Interesting:

Manny Margot: .343/.395/.686 (1.080 OPS)

The only pitching acquisition I approved of was Colon, and he has paired a great start with a dumpster fire start.

Why did I include Margot? Because I routinely use him as the evidence the Braves blew the Kimbrel trade. Rather than using him to unload BJ's contract, they could have had a player of Margot's caliber, who is producing at the MLB level at age 22.

So it looks like I did a terrible job identifying a capable RHed 4th OFer for the Braves, and my preference for Smyly over Dickey and Garcia is not looking too great (though neither of those guys is looking like a great idea either). When Smyly is healthy we will see if 2 years of Smyly was better than whatever the Braves patched together in his place plus Gohara.

I still think the Braves made a huge blunder by not spending $25M to acquire Castro to pair with Flowers. Holland was a no-brainer chance to take on a huge arm, but The Genius thought the BP was fine as is. If we had Valbuena to look forward to at 3B at least the position wouldn't the completely hopeless mess it is now.
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What are the chances Jason Castro has turned into a good hitter all of a sudden? It's 7 or 8 games into the season. He's a career .700 OPS guy which is where he probably about where his batting line will be at the end of the year. Same story with Margot..it's been 7 games.
 
Pachoo said:
What are the chances Jason Castro has turned into a good hitter all of a sudden? It's 7 or 8 games into the season. He's a career .700 OPS guy which is where he probably about where his batting line will be at the end of the year. Same story with Margot..it's been 7 games.
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Well the Braves suck, and there isn't anything worth talking about 7 games into the season. So I decided to look up how well the guys I wanted the Braves to acquire are doing.
 
Wish we would have done that Heyward for Judge trade a couple years ago.

Judge is going to be a superstar. He's hitting .320 with 3 HR, 7 RBI, and only 6 K.
 
Enscheff said:
Here is a list of guys I wanted the Braves to acquire instead of the steaming pile of garbage that ended up on the roster.

The Good:
Greg Holland: 5 IP, 0 R, 8K, 2 BB
Jason Castro: .353/.542/.588 (1.130 OPS)

The Meh:
Austin Jackson: .273/.273/.364 (.636 OPS)
Desmond Jennings: .222/.333/.333( .667 OPS) in AAA

The Bad:
Drew Smyly: 60-day DL
Luis Valbuena: DL for at least a few more weeks
Rajai Davis: .167/.212/.300 (.512 OPS)
Justin Ruggiano: .200/.273/.200 (.473 OPS) in AAA

The Interesting:
Manny Margot: .343/.395/.686 (1.080 OPS)

The only pitching acquisition I approved of was Colon, and he has paired a great start with a dumpster fire start.

Why did I include Margot? Because I routinely use him as the evidence the Braves blew the Kimbrel trade. Rather than using him to unload BJ's contract, they could have had a player of Margot's caliber, who is producing at the MLB level at age 22.

So it looks like I did a terrible job identifying a capable RHed 4th OFer for the Braves, and my preference for Smyly over Dickey and Garcia is not looking too great (though neither of those guys is looking like a great idea either). When Smyly is healthy we will see if 2 years of Smyly was better than whatever the Braves patched together in his place plus Gohara.

I still think the Braves made a huge blunder by not spending $25M to acquire Castro to pair with Flowers. Holland was a no-brainer chance to take on a huge arm, but The Genius thought the BP was fine as is. If we had Valbuena to look forward to at 3B at least the position wouldn't the completely hopeless mess it is now.
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Why do you pretend to care who the Braves acquired?
 
Enscheff said:
Well the Braves suck, and there isn't anything worth talking about 7 games into the season. So I decided to look up how well the guys I wanted the Braves to acquire are doing.
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Are you sure you weren't just looking for things to support your conclusion. The whole positional question went to hell when Sean Rodriguez was hurt. Guy would have been a big crowd favorite and versatile.
 
rico43 said:
Are you sure you weren't just looking for things to support your conclusion. The whole positional question went to hell when Sean Rodriguez was hurt. Guy would have been a big crowd favorite and versatile.
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Did you miss the part of my post where I showed how poorly many of the guys I wanted are playing?
 
Russ2dollas said:
Klaws new top 50 has our number 3 pick in it but not many of the players we board gms wanted instead
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And one of those guys is already hurt as well. Nothing Anderson has done so far should provide anything other than confirmation the braves believed he had big time upside. Potentially 3+ pitches with a great pitchers frame.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Klaws new top 50 has our number 3 pick in it but not many of the players we board gms wanted instead
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Should be noted that nothing has really changed in Law's rankings. He's just simply removed 7 players from his initial top top 100 that are now in the majors. Anderson was #52 overall in his rankings in January so it's no surprise he's now in the top 50 with recent graduates.
 
In short summation of this thread... none of these players other than Castro and Holland would have made any type of impact.

I believe Castro was passed because of the long term plans of the FO be it Lucroy or one believing in one of the minor league guys.

Holland, there really isn't much defense for unless they deemed the $ too much for the risk involved. Again, I can get that even if it doesn't mesh with what we have shown previously.
 
Tapate50 said:
In short summation of this thread... none of these players other than Castro and Holland would have made any type of impact.

I believe Castro was passed because of the long term plans of the FO be it Lucroy or one believing in one of the minor league guys.

Holland, there really isn't much defense for unless they deemed the $ too much for the risk involved. Again, I can get that even if it doesn't mesh with what we have shown previously.
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I think they passed on Castro because he can't hit and his price tag well exceeded the so called hidden value of his pitch framing.

It goes without saying that seven games isn't really significant at all.
 
SJ24 said:
Wish we would have done that Heyward for Judge trade a couple years ago.

Judge is going to be a superstar. He's hitting .320 with 3 HR, 7 RBI, and only 6 K.
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I don't think he will be, just like I don't think Sanchez will be. I think both will be good solid players, and there's certainly plenty of value in that.

But Sanchez won't duplicate what he did last year, and Judge will come down to earth.

I don't know that I've ever seen this many overreactions, on either side, after one week of a season before.
 
smootness said:
I don't think he will be, just like I don't think Sanchez will be. I think both will be good solid players, and there's certainly plenty of value in that.

But Sanchez won't duplicate what he did last year, and Judge will come down to earth.

I don't know that I've ever seen this many overreactions, on either side, after one week of a season before.
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Braves fans are hungry for something to eat.. and anything we see looks like steak to us. that is why I am watching/listening to minor ball. it is a ton of games all day that I can just slowly digest.
 
Castro is just 6-for-31 (.194) through his first 10 games with Minnesota, though he has drawn nine walks. The 29-year-old catcher signed a three-year, $24.5 million free agent contract over the offseason.

This Jason Castro?
 
Tapate50 said:
Castro is just 6-for-31 (.194) through his first 10 games with Minnesota, though he has drawn nine walks. The 29-year-old catcher signed a three-year, $24.5 million free agent contract over the offseason.

This Jason Castro?
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Well you know...the sabercommunity on this board, only a few actually, love their small samples when it fits their narrative.
 
thethe said:
Well you know...the sabercommunity on this board, only a few actually, love their small samples when it fits their narrative.
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What if Castro were motivated to play for an upward team like the Braves compared a rebuilding one like Kemp?

Wouldn't his numbers be better?
 
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