The Trump Presidency

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That the Democrats are being hypocrites about Comey when they wanted him gone on day one of Clinton's presidency is secondary at the moment to Trump's blatant abuse of power, but shouldn't be ignored. Trump is his own **** show but there are some real systemic things at play here about those who run our government.
 
Gov. Mike Huckabee‏Verified account @GovMikeHuckabee

CNN now stands for Cardiac Care Network because their ppl are having heart attacks over Trump doing what Dems once demanded-fire Comey.
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This is why I can't have 'nuthin
 
Trump ****ting on Richard Blumenthal before it's even 9AM.

"He cried like a baby and begged for forgiveness ..."

Twitter's the new Bully pulpit.
 
bravesnumberone said:
That the Democrats are being hypocrites about Comey when they wanted him gone on day one of Clinton's presidency is secondary at the moment to Trump's blatant abuse of power, but shouldn't be ignored. Trump is his own **** show but there are some real systemic things at play here about those who run our government.
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I haven't seen comments from every Democrat, obviously, but most of what I've seen has parsed the issue in a pretty coherent way. It's not hypocritical to have been troubled by Comey's election adventures and to think that firing him now stinks to high heaven.

Another small detail that's interesting to note is that Rosenstein's letter, though highly critical of Comey, doesn't explicitly state that he should be removed. It's an obvious fig-leaf for a decision that came from the Oval Office.

Whatever hypocrisy exists on the D side here pales in comparison, IMO, to the cynicism and hypocrisy of taking the line that he was fired for the reasons set out in Rosenstein's letter, which were actions that were explicitly praised by the President. So, take note of Congressional hypocrisy, sure, but to make that the story here is to miss the point.

The President just fired the government official--in an office which is supposed to be firewalled from political considerations--who is overseeing an investigation of the President's campaign and former members of the Administration. This comes barely a month after that official publicly confirmed that the investigation existed, and declined to backstop the President's irresponsible wiretapping claims. This is not a "on one hand..." kind of issue.
 
Julio3000 said:
I haven't seen comments from every Democrat, obviously, but most of what I've seen has parsed the issue in a pretty coherent way. It's not hypocritical to have been troubled by Comey's election adventures and to think that firing him now stinks to high heaven.

Another small detail that's interesting to note is that Rosenstein's letter, though highly critical of Comey, doesn't explicitly state that he should be removed. It's an obvious fig-leaf for a decision that came from the Oval Office.

Whatever hypocrisy exists on the D side here pales in comparison, IMO, to the cynicism and hypocrisy of taking the line that he was fired for the reasons set out in Rosenstein's letter, which were actions that were explicitly praised by the President. So, take note of Congressional hypocrisy, sure, but to make that the story here is to miss the point.

The President just fired the government official--in an office which is supposed to be firewalled from political considerations--who is overseeing an investigation of the President's campaign and former members of the Administration. This comes barely a month after that official publicly confirmed that the investigation existed, and declined to backstop the President's irresponsible wiretapping claims. This is not a "on one hand..." kind of issue.
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I don't dispute any of that. Just saying it's worth examining down the line. That the hyper partisanship in Washington has created the conditions for nut jobs and con artists like Trump and worse in the future to gain power and abuse it. Perhaps I worded it clumsily.
 
bravesnumberone said:
I don't dispute any of that. Just saying it's worth examining down the line. That the hyper partisanship in Washington has created the conditions for nut jobs and con artists like Trump and worse in the future to gain power and abuse it. Perhaps I worded it clumsily.
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I don't disagree, big picture. I wasn't trying to jump in your ****, either. No harm intended.
 
"WASHINGTON — Days before he was fired, James B. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, asked the Justice Department for a significant increase in money and personnel for the bureau’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the presidential election, according to three officials with knowledge of his request."

Per NYT.
 
Greg Dworkin‏Verified account @DemFromCT 4h4 hours ago

remember: we are here because republicans let trump skate on his tax returns.
 
had a meeting with an american war criminal

and then the state dept didn't have a press conference and the only media and pics from it were from Russian media

all the day after firing a FBI director who was investigating you

really great day thus far and it wasn't even noon yet
 
Trump: I fired Comey because 'he was not doing a good job'

President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he fired FBI Director James Comey because "he was not doing a good job.”

"He wasn't doing a good job," Trump said in the Oval Office, according to a pool report. "Very simply. He was not doing a good job."
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already changing his mind on why he fired him

disregard the press release i guess
 
Matthew Yglesias‏Verified account @mattyglesias 1m1 minute ago

Matthew Yglesias Retweeted David S. Cohen

Former deputy director of CIA says it's not a great idea to put a bunch of Russian AV equipment in the Oval Office -->
 
Can someone explain to me how firing Comey stops the Russia investigation? Are the people working the case suddenly going to stop now that Comey is gone? Any new FBI director will be forced to recuse themselves just to get confirmed.
 
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