The Trump Presidency

Agreed. Aside from a declaration of war all international powers reside with the executive branch. This administration was 100% in the right

Under the laws and the constitution, you are absolutely right, the move was 100% kosher and that it was ever subject to political show trials (especially purely on the basis of campaign rhetoric) was appalling and, really, kind of scary.

That there was no dissent by the liberal wing of the court here says all that needs to be said.

Now, should Presidential powers be legally clarified going forward? I think so.
 
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How does history judge Obama by falling asleep at the wheel regarding Russia and Isis?

I thought you said the Russia news was fake. Now you only talk about Obama's mistake. What about the lying, traitorous, con man who subverted the democratic process to get elected? I wonder how history is going to judge him.
 
From what I understand the only modification to the original order is that citizens from banned countries can still enter the United States if they have a "bona fide" connection to an American entity (family/work). This makes sense and should have been included in the initial framework of the ban anyways.

FWIW Thomas/Gorsuch/Alito explicitly disagreed with this modification in a dissenting opinion. They would have reinstated the ban as it was.

I've not read anything about the court reviewing the issue again until its next term (fall). By then the ban will have already expired, so it's actually unlikely that the court even hears the case.

The nation's highest court says it will decide the fate of President Trump's travel ban, agreeing to hear arguments over cases that were heard in federal courts in Hawaii and Maryland.

Supreme Court Revives Parts Of Trump's Travel Ban As It Agrees To Hear Case

The Supreme Court says it will decide the fate of President Trump's revised travel ban, agreeing to hear arguments over immigration cases that were filed in federal courts in Hawaii and Maryland and allowing parts of the ban that has been on hold since March to take effect.

The justices removed the two lower courts' injunctions against the ban "with respect to foreign nationals who lack any bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States," narrowing the scope of those injunctions that had put the ban in limbo.

Trump called the Supreme Court's order "a clear victory for our national security."

The president's revised executive order blocks new visas for travelers from six majority-Muslim countries for 90 days, and suspends the U.S. refugee program for 120 days. Challengers to the ban said it would harm people who have legitimate reasons to be in the U.S. — including through family ties, work and education.

The travel ban will remain on hold for plaintiffs who challenged the executive order and for anyone who is "similarly situated," the justices say — in other words, foreign nationals who have relatives in the U.S., or who plan to attend school or work here.

Refugees will face similar criteria, with anyone lacking connections in the U.S. denied entry. In its order, the court stated, "the balance tips in favor of the Government's compelling need to provide for the Nation's security."

Saying the petitions and injunctions "are accordingly ripe for consideration," the Supreme Court said on Monday that the two cases will be consolidated. The court's clerk will set a date for the case in the session that begins in October, the justices said, while noting that the Trump administration "has not requested that we expedite consideration of the merits to a greater extent."

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said today's move is "an important step towards restoring the separation of powers between the branches of the federal government."

Omar Jadwat, director of the ACLU's Immigrants' Rights Project, called the travel ban unconstitutional, saying, "Courts have repeatedly blocked this indefensible and discriminatory ban. The Supreme Court now has a chance to permanently strike it down."

In a statement released by the White House, Trump wrote:

"As President, I cannot allow people into our country who want to do us harm. I want people who can love the United States and all of its citizens, and who will be hardworking and productive.

"My number one responsibility as Commander in Chief is to keep the American people safe. Today's ruling allows me to use an important tool for protecting our Nation's homeland. I am also particularly gratified that the Supreme Court's decision was 9-0."

The court says its nine justices agreed in the 13-page decision to take the case and place stays on some of the preliminary injunctions. But several justices wanted to go further — Justice Clarence Thomas wrote a three-page opinion, joined by Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch, in which he said the government's request for a stay should have been granted in full.

"I agree with the Court's implicit conclusion that the Government has made a strong showing that it is likely to succeed on the merits," Thomas wrote, "that is, that the judgments below will be reversed."

Thomas criticized the decision to keep the injunctions in place for what he called "an unidentified, unnamed group of foreign nationals abroad," saying it places a burden on officials to determine who has a "bona fide relationship" with a person or organization in the U.S.

Trump's revised executive order was put on hold by lower court judges in Hawaii and Maryland in March, hours before it was set to take effect. Two federal appeals courts left those nationwide injunctions in place, setting up one final appeal for the Trump administration.

The White House argues that this executive order, like the previous version the president signed in January, is necessary to protect national security. The initial version caused chaos at airports across the country until it was blocked by a federal judge in Washington state, prompting the administration to craft a revised version that omitted references to religion and specifically exempted green card holders. But that order, too, was challenged by lawsuits, and it was blocked by lower courts before it ever went into effect.

As part of its instructions to the parties in the case, the high court said today that they should answer the question of "whether the challenges ... became moot on June 14, 2017" — referring to the order's timeframe of 90 days.

Both of the federal appeals courts that have considered the revised executive order have ruled against the administration — but for different reasons.

The appellate judges weren't directly ruling on the merits of the travel ban itself. But in order to decide if the lower court injunctions were appropriate, they had to weigh the probable impact of the order and the likelihood that the legal challenges would succeed.

The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals looked extensively at whether the travel ban violated the Constitution by discriminating on the basis of religion. The challengers in that case, led by the nonprofit International Refugee Assistance Project, argued that the travel ban is a thinly veiled attempt to block Muslims from entering the country, something Trump and his advisers talked about during and after the presidential campaign.

Lawyers for the Department of Justice countered that courts should look only at the language of the executive order itself, which does not mention religion explicitly. But that argument did not prevail. Writing for the 10-3 majority, Chief Judge Roger Gregory said the executive order "speaks with vague words of national security but in context drips with religious intolerance."

The ruling from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals focused on federal law. The court found that the president likely exceeded his statutory authority under the Immigration and Nationality Act.

"The order does not offer a sufficient justification to suspend the entry of more than 180 million people on the basis of nationality," the 9th Circuit judges wrote. "National security is not a 'talismanic incantation' that, once invoked, can support any and all exercise of executive power."

The Trump administration moved quickly to appeal both rulings to the Supreme Court.

"The Executive Branch is entrusted with the responsibility to keep the country safe under Article II of the Constitution," Sessions said in a statement after the 9th Circuit ruling. The attorney general called the threat of terrorism "immediate and real," and said the lower court's injunction "has a chilling effect on security operations overall."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170626
 
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You know I don't care much for Warren after she was spineless in the primaries and could have really helped Bernie.

However, how can any Trump supporter find this type of behavior acceptable from the leader of our country and the leader of the free world? This is the type of double standard Obama had to walk the fine line on. I cannot understand how people think the media sucked up to Obama when he never showed this type of erratic temperament. He didn't give them daily ammunition with facepalm comments. I just cannot imagine the **** Trump supporters and the right wing in this country would give Obama if he would be constantly committing these childish bullying acts of behavior. The insecurity in this guy is unreal. The deflecting, the name calling, the hyperbole.

At this point I'm convinced Trump supporters love that Trump acts this way just to spite liberals. It's so sad that we've come to something like this.

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You know I don't care much for Warren after she was spineless in the primaries and could have really helped Bernie.

However, how can any Trump supporter find this type of behavior acceptable from the leader of our country and the leader of the free world? This is the type of double standard Obama had to walk the fine line on. I cannot understand how people think the media sucked up to Obama when he never showed this type of erratic temperament. He didn't give them daily ammunition with facepalm comments. I just cannot imagine the **** Trump supporters and the right wing in this country would give Obama if he would be constantly committing these childish bullying acts of behavior. The insecurity in this guy is unreal. The deflecting, the name calling, the hyperbole.

At this point I'm convinced Trump supporters love that Trump acts this way just to spite liberals. It's so sad that we've come to something like this.

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Warren brought that Crap upon herself. She's a fraud and she has said many nasty things about trump and conservatives.
 
Warren brought that Crap upon herself. She's a fraud and she has said many nasty things about trump and conservatives.

Warren is a little on the shrill side for a lot of men. Especially insecure men who perceive strong women as uppity. I'm glad she tells it like it is. Trump and this group of "conservatives" are the nastiest bunch of politicians we've seen in a while.
 
good read

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/frank-rich-nixon-trump-and-how-a-presidency-ends.html

“Let others wallow in Watergate, we are going to do our job,” said Richard Nixon with typical unearned self-righteousness in July 1973. By then, more than a year had passed since a slapstick posse of five had been caught in a bungled burglary at the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate complex. It had been nine months since Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein reported in the Washington Post that the break-in was part of a “massive campaign of political spying and sabotage” conducted by all the president’s men against most of their political opponents. Now the nation was emerging from two solid months of Senate Watergate hearings, a riveting cavalcade of White House misfits and misdeeds viewed live by 71 percent of the public.

Excellent article for historical context and why we shouldn't expect the Russia scandal to be over soon.
 
only orange one disciples could say for months that all of that was fake

and now they are shifting to blame the black dude again

Who said Russia trying to influence the election was fake news? Continuing to move goalposts.
 
I thought you said the Russia news was fake. Now you only talk about Obama's mistake. What about the lying, traitorous, con man who subverted the democratic process to get elected? I wonder how history is going to judge him.

When you have actual evidence of that happening please let us know.
 
Me personally? LOL

Stay tuned. The dirt always comes out eventually.

Can you expand on 'eventually'? Will this be another 6 months? 1 year? how about Trumps whole presidency? At what point does it make sense to say, "We haven't found anything using unlimited resources. Maybe there isn't anything to be found."
 
Tax returns

Why won't he release the tax returns ?

Why did Kushner hide the loan from Deutche Bank on financial disclosure?

Where did the Russians get the voter data to target Facebook propaganda ?

What are Sessions and Flynn hiding ?

Back to the tax returns -- does he owe money to Russian Oligarchs ?
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History tells us two things here
1) The break in at Daniel Ellsbergs psychiatrist was in 1971 after the Pentagon Papers. Nixon resigned August 1974. Over 3 years

2) The Whitewater land deal took place the late 1980's. It wasn't until 1997 that Monica Lewinsky became, "a thing".
1999 the Republican Party lost their mind/ Easy 10 years
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Obviously your point of reference in dealing with investigations of this magnitude is the parlor game of CLUE
Within an hour it is easy to surmise Colonel Mustard ...
 
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