Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

CK86 said:
The Don Jr. emails prove that he was, at the very least, open to the idea of accepting Russia's help in order for his father to win the election. I don't see how that can be disputed based on reading the emails. Kushner's security clearances should've been removed a long time ago but nothing about this administration is normal.

That said, I also don't think it's going to be the thing that brings down the Trump administration. I believe we're at the top of the mountain and Don Jr's emails just pushed the snowball down the side of the mountain. We have a ways yet to go but winter is coming.

I'm gonna laugh so hard if there's actually a recording of the meeting.
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there are a couple indications that Kushner's lawyers were sources for some of the information about the emails if not the emails themselves
 
Hawk said:
Sorry for being able to keep it in my pants over an innocuous email between Donald Trump Jr. and this guy:

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Your desperation reeks.

I'm not of the belief that there's nothing to the Russian angle, but when you guys continually trot out the same recycled conspiratorial, toothless bitter fluff it gets old.

This (the email) is a nothing burger and you know it. Or at least I hope you do.
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I think you used to be of that belief, no? I'm curious as to why the development of the issue over time hasn't shifted your perspective more (compared to, say, 2 months ago or 6 or 8 months ago. The picture has changed quite a bit. Some of what has come to light is most likely fluff, and some seems quite substantive.

This thing with DJTJ is, at the VERY least, shows extremely poor judgment and is awful w/r/t optics. Is it more than that? Dunno. Is it nothing, as you believe and suggest that we all should? I don't know that, either, but until more is known, the case for it being nothing hangs on the word of some individuals who have not distinguished themselves with their probity.
 
Let's say Trump did some shady business deal in England years ago

And someone over there reached out to hillarys people and offered them some dirt on trump during the election

Would you all be flabbergasted if hillary accepted? I don't think so.
 
Hawk said:
If Mike Pence becomes President of this country I'm moving to the Philippines.
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I have already been told from a business in New Zealand they would sponsor a move

Although they would rather I stay here and fight the orange one in anyway I can so the world doesn't have to endure his awfulness.

I would suggest the same to you if you're serious on the move part. I think about it everyday. Lol

I swear pence was put on the ticket for this exact reason imo.
 
Krgrecw said:
Let's say Trump did some shady business deal in England years ago

And someone over there reached out to hillarys people and offered them some dirt on trump during the election

Would you all be flabbergasted if hillary accepted? I don't think so.
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Hypotheticals are fun when trying to distract from documented and self admitted possible treason
 
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ok children, can we spot the difference between 2 sentences and see how the words were twisted to say something else?

cause here is the original sentence again for the slow learning

"Hypotheticals are fun when trying to distract from documented and self admitted possible treason"
 
thethe said:
You know what this means sir. Just as valid as the rest of the Russian conspiracy theories.
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That seems like a particularly disingenuous attempt at a false equivalency. We know that DJTJ received a solicitation to meet that explicitly offered the support of the Russian government, and he set up a meet and forwarded it to Manafort and Kushner, who also attended the meet. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's just what happened, apparently.
 
Julio3000 said:
That seems like a particularly disingenuous attempt at a false equivalency. We know that DJTJ received a solicitation to meet that explicitly offered the support of the Russian government, and he set up a meet and forwarded it to Manafort and Kushner, who also attended the meet. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's just what happened, apparently.
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How was the meeting with this lawyer an example of support from the Russian government?
 
Julio3000 said:
That seems like a particularly disingenuous attempt at a false equivalency. We know that DJTJ received a solicitation to meet that explicitly offered the support of the Russian government, and he set up a meet and forwarded it to Manafort and Kushner, who also attended the meet. That's not a conspiracy theory. That's just what happened, apparently.
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you're forgetting these people believe in Alternative Facts
 
thethe said:
How was the meeting with this lawyer an example of support from the Russian government?
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Did you read the email exchange? That's kinda the whole point of it.

edit for clarity: It isn't an example of support but it is concrete proof of the willingness of important people in the Trump inner circle to accept "help" proffered by Moscow, and of Moscow's desire to a)conspire with them and/or b)compromise and burn them.
 
goldfly said:
ok children, can we spot the difference between 2 sentences and see how the words were twisted to say something else?

cause here is the original sentence again for the slow learning

"Hypotheticals are fun when trying to distract from documented and self admitted possible treason"
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Oh? Your first post said this:

goldfly said:
who cares about treason when you are making the best deals to make america great again by propping up your family name and giving tax cuts to rich people by taking insurance away from people that need it while playing golf every weekend?
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Oh an by the ay, even possible treason is wrong... unless you know something the rest of us don't
 
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