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I know shoulder injuries are bad, bad news for pitchers, but what about hitters? In July, he's 3/45 (.067) with 1 extra base hit (2b). His ops was .294 in MiLB. His numbers make bj upton blush. Granted, it's a SSS, but is there reason to worry with him on the wrong side of 30 and coming off a major injury?
 
Not worried about him. That was a major injury, you typically get more at bats in spring training than he has had. Not saying he should be playing everyday but still...
 
Injury aside (which is a substantial injury), I never liked the signing. I hope he proves me wrong, but that's not at issue here. I agree with jpx7 that he should be still rehabbing.
 
Tapate50 said:
I mean this is blatently obvious. Truly a horrific personnel decision unless he had to come up or his season was to be over or something I'm not seeing.
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I can't argue with this.

If you are trying to win every game so you bench Comargo then you don't bring up SRod given his rehab numbers.

If you are trying to get ready for next year then I have no problem letting SRod play but you can't bench Swanson for Comargo and play FF at 3B.
 
We have a narrative addicted front office that actually allows the narrative to drive important decisions.

Last year it was the importance of building up momentum heading into the 2017 season with the new stadium and all that jazz.

This year it has to do with the fact this is a competitive team that will be playing meaningful games in September. To sustain that narrative you need to either bring in reinforcements or argue that reinforcements are arriving from internal sources. Sean Rodriguez is very important to that narrative, which in turn has influenced how quickly they have activated him. It probably has overridden other considerations. Such as is he ready.
 
nsacpi said:
We have a narrative addicted front office that actually allows the narrative to drive important decisions.

Last year it was the importance of building up momentum heading into the 2017 season with the new stadium and all that jazz.

This year it has to do with the fact this is a competitive team that will be playing meaningful games in September. To sustain that narrative you need to either bring in reinforcements or argue that reinforcements are arriving from internal sources. Sean Rodriguez is very important to that narrative, which in turn has influenced how quickly they have activated him. It probably has overridden other considerations. Such as is he ready.
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I don't think that is a very good theory on Rodriguez.
 
nsacpi said:
We have a narrative addicted front office that actually allows the narrative to drive important decisions.

Last year it was the importance of building up momentum heading into the 2017 season with the new stadium and all that jazz.

This year it has to do with the fact this is a competitive team that will be playing meaningful games in September. To sustain that narrative you need to either bring in reinforcements or argue that reinforcements are arriving from internal sources. Sean Rodriguez is very important to that narrative, which in turn has influenced how quickly they have activated him. It probably has overridden other considerations. Such as is he ready.
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It's just under $6 million per year for two years, but I just don't think Rodriguez is that good. He's a bench guy. One decent year at the plate in his career. Maybe it's just me, but I don't shell out $6 million for a utility guy. But I agree that he is a name (although not a big name) that would lead people to believe he would be a key piece in 2017.
 
50PoundHead said:
It's just under $6 million per year for two years, but I just don't think Rodriguez is that good. He's a bench guy. One decent year at the plate in his career. Maybe it's just me, but I don't shell out $6 million for a utility guy. But I agree that he is a name (although not a big name) that would lead people to believe he would be a key piece in 2017.
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The dude is 32 and has 1 season where he at above league average. Im not sure what the reasoning behind spending 6 million per year on him is, but at least its not crippling contract.
 
I don't know to what extent it played into the organization's thinking, but it did seem like Rodriguez took on an out-sized role in the conversation around the team and what it was capable of.

Guy's a 32-year-old utility infielder with a career .692 OPS. He's a useful player, but he doesn't move the needle, and all the talk about the team overcoming his crippling absence or him providing a "spark" upon his return was pretty bizarre. And that's without taking into account his injury situation.
 
nsacpi said:
We have a narrative addicted front office that actually allows the narrative to drive important decisions.

Last year it was the importance of building up momentum heading into the 2017 season with the new stadium and all that jazz.

This year it has to do with the fact this is a competitive team that will be playing meaningful games in September. To sustain that narrative you need to either bring in reinforcements or argue that reinforcements are arriving from internal sources. Sean Rodriguez is very important to that narrative, which in turn has influenced how quickly they have activated him. It probably has overridden other considerations. Such as is he ready.
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I think the thought process was more along the lines of...

Braves must show a desire to be competitive to appease the casual fans, therefore...

They can't trade away Matt Adams without a clear replacement at 3B, therefore...

They needed to see what SRod can provide, but...

He isn't ready yet, and didn't come out on fire to create a buzz, therefore...

They announce they are unlikely to trade Adams, thus...

The illusion of remaining competitive is still present for the casual fans.

I would say the overarching narrative for the front office the entire time, and main driver behind all the sub-optimal moves they've made during this rebuild is:

"We are using taxpayer money to build a new stadium, so we better make it priority to show casual fans we are trying to win games"

And it has led to wasting a lot of assets that could have gone towards the rebuild, unfortunately.
 
50PoundHead said:
Injury aside (which is a substantial injury), I never liked the signing. I hope he proves me wrong, but that's not at issue here. I agree with jpx7 that he should be still rehabbing.
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Yeah I didn't get the hype either. He is lesser version of Martin Prado whom I really like, but SRod was never anything, but an average player with an average bat.
 
Enscheff said:
"We are using taxpayer money to build a new stadium, so we better make it priority to show casual fans we are trying to win games"
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^^^

This is one of many reasons—and one of the more trivial, really—why taxpayer dollars shouldn't be allocated to building stadia for private teams.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Yeah I didn't get the hype either. He is lesser version of Martin Prado whom I really like, but SRod was never anything, but an average player with an average bat.
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In case you haven't noticed, "average player with an average bat" is a significant upgrade for most spots on the Braves roster haha.
 
Some moves work, and others don't. The White Sox are already finding out that trading for prospects isn't as easy as it looks - Giolito and Lopez have less value now than they did then, and Kopech better figure out his control issues in a hurry. The bottom line is, the rebuild is going well, we have put ourselves in a good position moving forward. Could some of the moves have been better? Sure. Do I like that we traded for Olivera, then compounded it on Kemp? No. I don't love everything we've done, so you can certainly argue that it could be going better.

But overall, it's been successful to this point, and things are looking good. That's all you can really ask. Which is why I like the direction we're headed and am overall satisfied with what we've done.
 
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