The Trump Presidency

Runnin said:
Tell us, what might you consider "hard evidence"? A document between Trump and Putin signed in blood fingerprints?
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There is the thought out there that Mueller and his team are now searching for evidence which is outside of the Russia collusion narrative because the evidence for the collusion is weak at best. Basically meaning they don't have any real evidence to prove the initial narrative.

We will see but I don't see how you can scream from the hilltops about Russia collusion and then try to remove trump on an unrelated charge for events that transpired before the election. That will not go over well.
 
thethe said:
There is the thought out there that Mueller and his team are now searching for evidence which is outside of the Russia collusion narrative because the evidence for the collusion is weak at best. Basically meaning they don't have any real evidence to prove the initial narrative.

We will see but I don't see how you can scream from the hilltops about Russia collusion and then try to remove trump on an unrelated charge for events that transpired before the election. That will not go over well.
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At this point the more Mueller digs up, the better. If Trump owes money to Russian bankers that's great. Remember that a lot of the Kremlin's surrogates don't actually have official government positions. It's an extended mafia. But again, Trump's deflecting and desperation to hold rallies like the one in WV all lead me to believe he knows there's something. Right now Mueller is following the money and he has an all-star team specializing in many different areas of money laundering, fraud, etc. Flynn has already disclosed more things he "forgot". We saw in a few days how the Trump Jr. meeting went from 3 people in the room to 5+. Also a reason why Trump is trying to shove legislation from Congress ASAP like Healthcare. As his popularity declines, he's going to get less votes and people from the party willing to bend over for him.

Republicans in mid-terms and 2020 won't want anything to do with Trump and will distance themselves even on policy votes.

Just remember, liberals are out of their minds to believe there was a connection to Trump's team and Russia that they're trying to hide, but Hillary Clinton pushed a button and had Seth Rich killed and that's sound reasoning.
 
The argument was trump won because he colluded with the russians. And now it's being said if that's not proven he should be removed anyway because of other charges. How much are we moving the goalposts to mask the fact that the left wants him removed simply because they don't agree with his policies? That is not a va lid reason to remove him.

Collusion with a foreign, and often adversarial, government is a valid reason.
 
thethe said:
The argument was trump won because he colluded with the russians. And now it's being said if that's not proven he should be removed anyway because of other charges. How much are we moving the goalposts to mask the fact that the left wants him removed simply because they don't agree with his policies? That is not a va lid reason to remove him.

Collusion with a foreign, and often adversarial, government is a valid reason.
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@andylassner

You know who's not taking a vacation for the next 17 days, @POTUS?

Robert Mueller.

 
Runnin said:
In case you haven't notice, Trump's not going over well.
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Echoing thethe ... with who? The same people who didn't support him to begin with.

If you look at state by state approval ratings virtually nothing has changed about how Americans view Trump since November.
 
Hawk said:
Echoing thethe ... with who? The same people who didn't support him to begin with.

If you look at state by state approval ratings virtually nothing has changed about how Americans view Trump since November.
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The problem is that everyone is in their echo box and don't realize how diverse the opinion is in this country.

Their will be revolt if no evidence of collusion is found and the president is displaced.
 
thethe said:
Not all jobs are created equal.
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He definitely inherited an economy in disrepair, but the biggest problem with positive trends in the employment/growth that Obama did effect in his two terms was the hefty percent that didn't consist of "real" jobs. The so-called "gig economy" is not all on his administration, but it was quite cozy with the tech lords who've helped usher it in, and moreover his policies didn't seem to do much to try to stem (no acronymic pun intended) the tide.
 
thethe said:
The argument was trump won because he colluded with the russians. And now it's being said if that's not proven he should be removed anyway because of other charges. How much are we moving the goalposts to mask the fact that the left wants him removed simply because they don't agree with his policies? That is not a va lid reason to remove him.

Collusion with a foreign, and often adversarial, government is a valid reason.
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Just think of it as being charged with resisting arrest despite there being no cause to arrest the person in the first place. So there can be obstruction of justice even if the investigation was bogus.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Just think of it as being charged with resisting arrest despite there being no cause to arrest the person in the first place. So there can be obstruction of justice even if the investigation was bogus.
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he has admitted in his tweets to obstruction of justice

and that example isn't the same way you are trying to paint it
 
cajunrevenge said:
Just think of it as being charged with resisting arrest despite there being no cause to arrest the person in the first place. So there can be obstruction of justice even if the investigation was bogus.
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I think of it as the deep state trying to execute a coup and the sheep of this country are going right along with it. What should Trump have done? Gone along with this whole charade when its clear to anyone what is happenign?

The people elected Trump. Whether anyone likes it or not. Our election system yields the results for the President and unless real evidence of collusion is presented he should not be removed.
 
Judicial Watch lays out the specifics: “[T]here were more total registered voters than there were adults over the age of 18 living in each of the following eleven (11) counties: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).” The letter notes that the percentage in L.A. Country may be as high as 144%.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/05/judicial-watch-warns-california-11-counties-voters-voting-age-citizens/

Hmmm.....
 
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