S-Rod traded to Pirates

Obviously none of us know for sure what these guys are going to do... My opinion for what its worth.

I love Camargo and really like him in a utility role, but still see Swanson as the better long term player. I think Camargo playing every day has been exposed a little, and would be better in a utility role.

Patience is not a virtue for most fans. I think Swanny will be fine over the long haul.
 
So I stop monitoring this place for one Fricking day, and y'all let Coppy get into Chip's stash? All this **** is bonkers man
 
I would like Swanson to open his stance a bit more and then close up on his swing. He flys off the ball way too much and if he was bringing his front foot back into the plate, he would stay on the ball better..
 
Dansby is very good defensively. Even with all the errors, he's been above-average at SS. I absolutely question whether Camargo is better there.
 
This> We shouldn't sell him short because he wasn't immediately what we hope he will be. He is solid defensively, and will get it together with the bat.

Patience!
 
smootness said:
Dansby is very good defensively. Even with all the errors, he's been above-average at SS. I absolutely question whether Camargo is better there.
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If he were "very good" on defense wouldn't he be better than just "above-average?"
 
mfree80 said:
This> We shouldn't sell him short because he wasn't immediately what we hope he will be. He is solid defensively, and will get it together with the bat.

Patience!
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Why? He doesn't automatically get better just because he's young. I think a lot of people here have this misconception that just because a player is young doesn't mean he improves the next season or the season after that. Yes, it is still very early in his career and he could get better, but then again there is a chance he flops. Young players don't always improve over time like people here think. Maybe someday they will enter reality.
 
Enscheff said:
Dansby does have better range. Folks see Camargo's double plus arm and confuse it with good defense.
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Dansby doesn't have especially good hands for a middle infielder. I think Camargo has him beat in that department. But I agree about Dansby having better range.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Why? He doesn't automatically get better just because he's young. I think a lot of people here have this misconception that just because a player is young doesn't mean he improves the next season or the season after that. Yes, it is still very early in his career and he could get better, but then again there is a chance he flops. Young players don't always improve over time like people here think. Maybe someday they will enter reality.
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Nothing is automatic, but his talent is beyond question. Young players with talent who also work hard get better until they reach their prime. You may not see him that way, but I think most people in Baseball have not given up on him at this point.
 
nsacpi said:
Dansby doesn't have especially good hands for a middle infielder. I think Camargo has him beat in that department. But I agree about Dansby having better range.
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I can't wait until statcast data is crunched enough to tell us how much range each infielder has. This is absolutely something that can be quantified with the data available.

Reaction time + acceleration + foot speed = range....and the radar tracks all that data.
 
Enscheff said:
I can't wait until statcast data is crunched enough to tell us how much range each infielder has. This is absolutely something that can be quantified with the data available.

Reaction time + acceleration + foot speed = range....and the radar tracks all that data.
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You go crunch those numbers.
I will take grounders.
 
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