57Brave
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please take some time to look and think about the photo runnin put up this morning in a parallel thread.
How many antifa showed up in KKK hoods?
Think about that picture
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please take some time to look and think about the photo runnin put up this morning in a parallel thread.
How many antifa showed up in KKK hoods?
Think about that picture
These are two extremist violent groups. Nobody is saying otherwise.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
would you say the same of 9-11
57 lost it a while back
The intention to kill innocents for a radical ideology? Yes.
Is this a serious post?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
So you think there is a difference between Mr Fields and Mohamed Atta on that score. One was motivate to kill innocents for a radical ideology but the other was not? Just want to make sure I understand.
Runnin
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I think the explanation is pretty obvious. Mr. TT, with his violence inciting rhetoric, has emboldened this ugly segment of the population. These people dream of doing such acts. All it will take is one well-deserved retaliatory act against them to set off the carnage he's been so cleverly calling for.
No...I'm agreeing it's the same type of evil.
Runnin
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Obviously I don't live in a right wing bubble. I would assume all freedom loving people would be anti-fascists, unless . . .
It's a global left wing extremist group. I was following them a few months ago in dussledorf.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Good. I'm glad about that. I have a couple further points.
I think the "sea" of people they swim in should be viewed similarly. Atta and radical Islamists. Fields and neo-Nazis.
However, there is a further distinction that is important to draw in both cases. Neo-Nazis shouldn't be used to tar all culturally conservative people. And radical Islamists should not be used to stoke fear of Muslims. I will leave it to others to comment on whether any of our politicians engage in such activity.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
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Dalyn
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“Our Founders fought a revolution for the idea that all men are created equal. The heirs of that revolution fought a Civil War to save our nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to that revolutionary proposition.
“Nothing less is at stake on the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia, where a violent attack has taken at least one American life and injured many others in a confrontation between our better angels and our worst demons.
“White supremacists and neo-Nazis are, by definition, opposed to American patriotism and the ideals that define us as a people and make our nation special.
“As we mourn the tragedy that has occurred in Charlottesville, American patriots of all colors and creeds must come together to defy those who raise the flag of hatred and bigotry.”
“Nothing less is at stake on the streets of Charlottesville, Virginia, where a violent attack has taken at least one American life and injured many others in a confrontation between our better angels and our worst demons.
“White supremacists and neo-Nazis are, by definition, opposed to American patriotism and the ideals that define us as a people and make our nation special.
“As we mourn the tragedy that has occurred in Charlottesville, American patriots of all colors and creeds must come together to defy those who raise the flag of hatred and bigotry.”
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
thethe, whatever one thinks of antifa, all I've seen in this thread is you blaming them for some violent clashes which were clearly prepared for and welcomed by both combatant parties. There was also violence completely unrelated to antifa, most prominently the murder of a woman.
So when people are murdered or critically injured in an act of terror, you're willing to be appalled and call it what it is...while still, on the other hand, sticking to the same line about who's to blame.
The neo-nazi terrorist who tried to commit a mass murder was acting in a manner that is 100% consistent with the agenda of the people who organized the march. They are nazis. They are white supremacists. They are racist and virulently anti-Semitic, but beyond this, they advocate the creation of a white ethno-state.
Think about that for a sec. Just because they're coy about how one creates such a state doesn't make it less horrific.
What that kid did is completely in line with that ideology, and yet you're saying that a few dread-head bottlethrowers are the problem, and represent some kind of larger threat.
So when people are murdered or critically injured in an act of terror, you're willing to be appalled and call it what it is...while still, on the other hand, sticking to the same line about who's to blame.
The neo-nazi terrorist who tried to commit a mass murder was acting in a manner that is 100% consistent with the agenda of the people who organized the march. They are nazis. They are white supremacists. They are racist and virulently anti-Semitic, but beyond this, they advocate the creation of a white ethno-state.
Think about that for a sec. Just because they're coy about how one creates such a state doesn't make it less horrific.
What that kid did is completely in line with that ideology, and yet you're saying that a few dread-head bottlethrowers are the problem, and represent some kind of larger threat.